RangerRay
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…and the horse was hit by a semi…
US, NATO Outta Afghanistan 2021
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Just looking at this and considering Britain's move towards more ISR (to include diplomacy and training) and less strike, and the US's redirection of the SF away from "door-kicking" to foreign training is it worth asking if the overall intent is to eliminate the "Advance to Contact" phase?
It seems to me that the intent could be to treat the conditions under which wars are fought as "endemic" and shade the peace/war boundary by establishing contact when the risks are low and maintaining contact in perpetuity. Then there is less likelihood of accidents happening when nervous bodies advance through the fog.
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Why is it that every definition of something Scottish has the word ‘frugal’ in it, just saying….
daftandbarmy
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We had a guy in my platoon at Sandhurst who was from Glasgow, a former bouncer and as big as a house.
One day, during the usual microscopic level inspection on the parade square, the College Adjutant (a Scots Guardsman) stopped in front of him and had an interaction with him that went like this:
Adjt: Mr. XYZ, why do the Scots have such big noses?
OCdt XYZ: I dinnae know sorrrrr
Adjt (deadpan): Because air is free.
The fact that we didn't all collapse with laughter at that moment probably raised our esteem in the eyes of many onlookers....
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Color me shocked...
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Biden says he is ‘rejecting’ the military report outlining the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal
When asked if if the report's conclusions and accounts were false, Biden said he was "rejecting them."
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Color me shocked...
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Biden says he is ‘rejecting’ the military report outlining the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal
When asked if if the report's conclusions and accounts were false, Biden said he was "rejecting them."
This is a cheerful read (not).
I assume that someone could have written the same thing about Alexander the Great's campaigns
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CIDOB - The root cause of ‘Western’ failure in Afghanistan
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Like the local populace, regional history, culture, ethnicity, religion, language...
Running the ANA like a National Guard unit makes it easy to understand for politicians writing the cheques back home. Makes no sense to the Kandak Commander who has no ties to the local ethnic group he's trying to influence.
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I am so not utterly surprised by this. Radical Islamist's always bite the hands that feed them.
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The Taliban Can’t Win Friends or Influence People
Fights with neighbors, terrorism attacks on the group’s few patrons, and concerns over Taliban defections darken Afghanistan’s future.
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In other news, Canada seeks to (un-ironically) memorialize embarrassing foreign policy failure for all time
Global Affairs Canada plans to install a plaque commemorating Canada’s evacuation of Afghans and embassy staff when its capital Kabul fell to the Taliban, but critics argue that sends the wrong message.
The plaque carried a $10,000 price tag and was approved in a July 2022 memorandum that The Canadian Press obtained through an access-to-information request.
It reads, in part: “This plaque pays tribute to all the government of Canada employees who contributed to this heroic effort.”
The department said it unveiled the tribute in an October ceremony and plans to install it when renovations at its headquarters are completed.
Conservative Sen. Salma Ataullahjan said she was baffled by the move.
“It’s totally inappropriate, considering how we badly botched the exit,” she said in an interview from her native Pakistan, where she said Afghan children are begging in the streets.
“To me, it seems unnecessarily inappropriate and insensitive when I think of what’s happening in Afghanistan,” she said. “What are we congratulating ourselves on?”
The plaque describes Canada’s role in the chaotic evacuation of Kabul in August 2021, when the Taliban took over Afghanistan, as such: “In the preceding weeks and in those that immediately followed, a complex operation took place under extremely harsh, unsafe and rapidly changing conditions to help thousands of Canadian citizens, permanent residents of Canada and Afghans to flee to safety.”
Last year, a special parliamentary committee studied how it unfolded in depth.
MPs heard that Canada evacuated its embassy before its peers, making it nearly impossible for Canadian veterans’ groups to help get the Afghan interpreters they had worked with to safety.
Canada’s final commander in Kandahar during the Afghan war, retired Maj.-Gen. Dean Milner, said embassy staff left “embarrassingly way too fast.” He said that’s part of the reason “we only managed to pull out maybe about 15 to 17 per cent of those critical interpreters who soldiered alongside us.”
As detailed in a report last June, the committee also heard about failings in Canada’s resettlement process, which it found was “administratively and logistically complex.” Witnesses described poor communication, an overreliance on email and a requirement that people trying to flee the country access documents with a professional version of Adobe Acrobat.
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Critics ‘dismayed’ over Ottawa’s plans to install plaque praising Afghan evacuation
Global Affairs Canada plans to install a plaque commemorating Canada’s evacuation of Afghans and embassy staff when its capital Kabul fell to the Taliban, but critics argue that sends the wrong message.
The plaque carried a $10,000 price tag and was approved in a July 2022 memorandum that The Canadian Press obtained through an access-to-information request.
It reads, in part: “This plaque pays tribute to all the government of Canada employees who contributed to this heroic effort.”
The department said it unveiled the tribute in an October ceremony and plans to install it when renovations at its headquarters are completed.
Conservative Sen. Salma Ataullahjan said she was baffled by the move.
“It’s totally inappropriate, considering how we badly botched the exit,” she said in an interview from her native Pakistan, where she said Afghan children are begging in the streets.
“To me, it seems unnecessarily inappropriate and insensitive when I think of what’s happening in Afghanistan,” she said. “What are we congratulating ourselves on?”
The plaque describes Canada’s role in the chaotic evacuation of Kabul in August 2021, when the Taliban took over Afghanistan, as such: “In the preceding weeks and in those that immediately followed, a complex operation took place under extremely harsh, unsafe and rapidly changing conditions to help thousands of Canadian citizens, permanent residents of Canada and Afghans to flee to safety.”
Last year, a special parliamentary committee studied how it unfolded in depth.
MPs heard that Canada evacuated its embassy before its peers, making it nearly impossible for Canadian veterans’ groups to help get the Afghan interpreters they had worked with to safety.
Canada’s final commander in Kandahar during the Afghan war, retired Maj.-Gen. Dean Milner, said embassy staff left “embarrassingly way too fast.” He said that’s part of the reason “we only managed to pull out maybe about 15 to 17 per cent of those critical interpreters who soldiered alongside us.”
As detailed in a report last June, the committee also heard about failings in Canada’s resettlement process, which it found was “administratively and logistically complex.” Witnesses described poor communication, an overreliance on email and a requirement that people trying to flee the country access documents with a professional version of Adobe Acrobat.
Critics ‘dismayed’ over Ottawa’s plans to install plaque praising Afghan evacuation - National | Globalnews.ca
The memorandum says deputy ministers held a June 2022 discussion that included an event to commemorate the Afghanistan evacuation, but it doesn't say who came up with the idea.
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This is embarrassing
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I read this yesterday. I was absolutely and still remain absolutely disgusted by this. I’ll be writing my MP asking basically WTF???
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Sure, but the CAF is a visible group, rather than Department of XYZ.
Saying "those bureaucrats over there" doesn't have the same oomph on headlines - people will forget which department by the end of the article.
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Canada ‘limited’ on ability to help Afghans, Trudeau says after ex-MP killed
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Mursal Nabizada knew the Taliban were coming and she'd have a target on her back but she refused to leave.
Maybe what we really need is a plaque to commentate the Prime Minister of Canada bravely escaping the Trucker convoy. That's courage.
Canada ‘limited’ on ability to help Afghans, Trudeau says after ex-MP killed - National | Globalnews.ca
'We condemn the murder of Mursal Nabizada, a former Afghan parliamentarian, who bravely fought for the rights of women and girls,' the statement read.
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Mursal Nabizada knew the Taliban were coming and she'd have a target on her back but she refused to leave.
Maybe what we really need is a plaque to commentate the Prime Minister of Canada bravely escaping the Trucker convoy. That's courage.
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They also serve, who run and hide.Canada ‘limited’ on ability to help Afghans, Trudeau says after ex-MP killed
Canada ‘limited’ on ability to help Afghans, Trudeau says after ex-MP killed - National | Globalnews.ca
'We condemn the murder of Mursal Nabizada, a former Afghan parliamentarian, who bravely fought for the rights of women and girls,' the statement read.
Mursal Nabizada knew the Taliban were coming and she'd have a target on her back but she refused to leave.
Maybe what we really need is a plaque to commentate the Prime Minister of Canada bravely escaping the Trucker convoy. That's courage.
OldSolduer
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Fuck that is good!Canada ‘limited’ on ability to help Afghans, Trudeau says after ex-MP killed
Canada ‘limited’ on ability to help Afghans, Trudeau says after ex-MP killed - National | Globalnews.ca
'We condemn the murder of Mursal Nabizada, a former Afghan parliamentarian, who bravely fought for the rights of women and girls,' the statement read.
Mursal Nabizada knew the Taliban were coming and she'd have a target on her back but she refused to leave.
Maybe what we really need is a plaque to commentate the Prime Minister of Canada bravely escaping the Trucker convoy. That's courage.
I will have more to say on this later.
We are now a "cut and run" nation. Then those that caused it get praised. Fuck.
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As me old grandad would say.... "She's a fine state of affairs we find ourselves in."
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I hate these people Jim. They may as well spit in good & honest Canadians faces as far as I'm concerned.Fuck that is good!
I will have more to say on this later.
We are now a "cut and run" nation. Then those that caused it get praised. Fuck.
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