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FJAG

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I guess it's time to start working on putting a non socialist Oceania together.

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A spokesperson for the White House National Security Council rejected the Handelsblatt story.

It seems that the Germans are balking at this. Could also be the Russians planting false/misleading info, which I sometimes wonder if that occurs on here.
Not surprising, considering it was the Germans who vetoed NATO from supplying weapons to Ukraine.
 

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Not surprising, considering it was the Germans who vetoed NATO from supplying weapons to Ukraine.
I am suspecting the Germans have been pushning back a lot, possibly due to Nordstream 2, and other gas pipelines, Germany may realize how by the balls russia actually has Europe, and might be trying to not piss them off, as a lot of Russian gas goes directly to Germany.
 

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I am suspecting the Germans have been pushning back a lot, possibly due to Nordstream 2, and other gas pipelines, Germany may realize how by the balls russia actually has Europe, and might be trying to not piss them off, as a lot of Russian gas goes directly to Germany.
Price to fuel Europe this year, Ukraine.

Price to fuel Europe next Olympics, Finland?
 

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Meanwhile hitting the nail on the head


What is with the cam jobs in the first pic? Christ...

The government’s record on buying new equipment in the past decade, under both Liberal and Conservative ministries, has been abysmal.

Just the last decade?

I can't say many of the observations and comments weren't ones I was nodding "yup" to...especially the "social policy is priority" one.
 

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So if this does kick off... Other than evacuate our nationals and hope our gals and guys in Latvia are ok what can we do ? Or does anyone actually think the west (Including Canada) will respond militarily ?

If be interested to know if a NATO TG is in the Black Sea right now.

Looks too me like it might be two or three pronged with Russia coming south from Belarus and west from the Crimea and their already captured Ukranian territory. And a possiblity of an amphibious landing from the baltic.
 

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It's interesting that Joly isn't meeting in Berlin with German officials but only in Paris and Brussels. It suggests a 'break' with our Deutsch Komrade's.
 
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... Looks too me like it might be two or three pronged with Russia coming south from Belarus and west from the Crimea and their already captured Ukranian territory. And a possiblity of an amphibious landing from the baltic.
Also, let's not forget that if Russia's sending troops for an "exercise" in northern Belaus while we're all watching Ukraine, there's that little bit of geography connecting Poland & Lithuania to keep an eye on, too. If Russia gets that corridor, Baltics will be literally (not just virtually) surrounded by Russia/Belarus.
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Also, let's not forget that if Russia's sending troops for an "exercise" in northern Belaus while we're all watching Ukraine, there's that little bit of geography connecting Poland & Lithuania to keep an eye on, too. If Russia gets that corridor, Baltics will be literally (not just virtually) surrounded by Russia/Belarus.
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I don't think Putin will take that big a bite. He is going to get something but the Baltic states are round two. Just my -2cents.
 

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So if this does kick off... Other than evacuate our nationals and hope our gals and guys in Latvia are ok what can we do ? Or does anyone actually think the west (Including Canada) will respond militarily ?

If be interested to know if a NATO TG is in the Black Sea right now.

Looks too me like it might be two or three pronged with Russia coming south from Belarus and west from the Crimea and their already captured Ukranian territory. And a possiblity of an amphibious landing from the baltic.
...Where could an amphibious landing...land...from the baltic?
 

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Desolee, I meant the Black Sea.
Ah, seen.

If I were to place bets on which sort of specialist operation we would see, I would bet on a airborne assault somewhere, maybe a key logistical center that the Russians don't want the Ukrainians blowing up.
 

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Ah, seen.

If I were to place bets on which sort of specialist operation we would see, I would bet on a airborne assault somewhere, maybe a key logistical center that the Russians don't want the Ukrainians blowing up.
The bridges, 4-5 of them, across the Dnieper for certain.
Would be comparable to the Germans grabbing the Dutch bridges across the Maas and Meuse in May 1940.
 
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