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Sexual Misconduct Allegations in The CAF

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"The U.S. military has strict rules about fraternization and deems extramarital affairs a punishable offence. The Canadian Armed Forces does not outlaw affairs but considers relationships within the chain of command to be off-limits.

DND disputes the characterization of the relationship as "an affair," saying Coates — who is the brother-in-law of Canada's deputy defence minister — "was separated when he entered into a relationship with the individual in question."

Separated is a distinct status, different from "married" including in the CAF. No? If the American's don't agree with the distinction...personally, I couldn't really care less. I'm not an American, and they're not the boss of me.

Clearly we have 'unofficially' declared these activities as punishable in one way or another, formally or otherwise.

Maybe it's time that we came out of the closet and formalized things.

sarcastic well done GIF by CBC
 

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Except, he didn't have an affair. His marriage was over before he entered into the new relationship.
Separated or divorced, getting into a relationship with someone in NORAD when you are the 2 I/C on exchange seems like an awful idea, especially in the puritan US culture. Even if he didn't break any rules, it's a pretty big indication you messed up when a four star is talking to the embassy about getting you gone.
 

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Separated or divorced, getting into a relationship with someone in NORAD when you are the 2 I/C on exchange seems like an awful idea, especially in the puritan US culture. Even if he didn't break any rules, it's a pretty big indication you messed up when a four star is talking to the embassy about getting you gone.
Meh...........
 

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The Executive Summary ....


A military in crisis: Here are the senior leaders embroiled in sexual misconduct cases​

Observers say they've never seen so many military leaders swept up in scandal at the same time​



It's a leadership crisis without precedent in the Canadian Armed Forces — a fact that only becomes clear when you take a step back and look at the full depth and scope of the sexual misconduct crisis and survey the wreckage in the top ranks.

Since early February 2021, 11 senior Canadian military leaders — current and former — have been sidelined, investigated or forced into retirement from some of the most powerful and prestigious posts in the defence establishment.

Experts say they can't think of another military anywhere else in the world that has seen so many senior leaders swept up in scandal at the same time.

Some senior leaders are facing allegations of sexual misconduct and are under military police investigation. Two people have been charged criminally in connection to the claims. Some have launched public campaigns to fight for their jobs back.

In other cases, military leaders have been placed on leave over their own handling of sexual misconduct files that triggered public backlash and division in the ranks.

The investigations often came to light publicly only after journalists started asking questions of the Department of National Defence (DND).

DND says military police do not "proactively disclose the existence of ongoing investigations" because it could jeopardize the integrity of those investigations. Investigations are confirmed publicly on a case-by-case basis, taking into account the investigation, privacy rights and the public's right to now, the department said.

What follows is a CBC News summary of all the senior leaders' cases and what has been reported to date. The list will be updated with new developments as they emerge. The cases are listed in chronological order.

 

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Separated or divorced, getting into a relationship with someone in NORAD when you are the 2 I/C on exchange seems like an awful idea, especially in the puritan US culture. Even if he didn't break any rules, it's a pretty big indication you messed up when a four star is talking to the embassy about getting you gone.
Two single people entering into a relationship. Are we now expecting, again single, people on OutCan posting to become social and celibate hermits?
 

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Two single people entering into a relationship. Are we now expecting, again single, people on OutCan posting to become social and celibate hermits?
No, but when you are running a base, date someone outside the base. Similarly, if you are running the CAF, date someone outside of the CAF/DND. How is this difficult? If you want more dating options, don't get promoted to where you are running things. It's your workplace, not kettle of fish, and there will never not be the potential for a power imbalance when you reach the august heights the GOFOs reach.

Might even help maintain a work/life balance to make friends outside of work.
 
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