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Heat dome moves toward Alberta after shattering temperature records in B.C., N.W.T.

SeaKingTacco

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Ah yes, because an MBA grad or a Professor of law are experts in climate…. Look at the signee list. Many have no experience in science at all and most do not have experience in a field related to climate science.
Oh, excellent! I no longer have to listen to David Suzuki, Elizabeth May and Greta Thunberg! Not climate scientists!
 

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Oh, excellent! I no longer have to listen to David Suzuki, Elizabeth May and Greta Thunberg! Not climate scientists!
There is a vast difference between people lobbying for climate change using what sciences brings as arguments and actual climate scientists. The fact that any of those names is on any list or petition for greener measure means nothing in the scientific debate regarding climate change. Their influence is in the cognitive domain by using their name and brand to push an agenda.

I am definitely for greener measures but I do not base my opinion on what David Suzuki, Greta or Elizabeth think and say. In fact, I don’t think I have ever watched any speech from any of those folks.
 

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There is a vast difference between people lobbying for climate change using what sciences brings as arguments and actual climate scientists. The fact that any of those names is on any list or petition for greener measure means nothing in the scientific debate regarding climate change. Their influence is in the cognitive domain by using their name and brand to push an agenda.

I am definitely for greener measures but I do not base my opinion on what David Suzuki, Greta or Elizabeth think and say. In fact, I don’t think I have ever watched any speech from any of those folks.
You are lucky!
 

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There is a vast difference between people lobbying for climate change using what sciences brings as arguments and actual climate scientists. The fact that any of those names is on any list or petition for greener measure means nothing in the scientific debate regarding climate change. Their influence is in the cognitive domain by using their name and brand to push an agenda.

I am definitely for greener measures but I do not base my opinion on what David Suzuki, Greta or Elizabeth think and say. In fact, I don’t think I have ever watched any speech from any of those folks.
You forgot Greta Thunberg - mind you I think most everyone has so I can't fault you on that. ;)
 

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So, because there are challenges to making the world greener, we should give up and keep doing what we’re doing?

We should keep doing what we're doing, which is clearly a tolerable pace for adaptive change which doesn't require us to drop everything else to achieve some aim which may be fruitless. There are not simply two speeds of change here, "none" and "full".
 

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We should keep doing what we're doing, which is clearly a tolerable pace for adaptive change which doesn't require us to drop everything else to achieve some aim which may be fruitless. There are not simply two speeds of change here, "none" and "full".
I am sorry but not much is done systemically to “greenify” the economy at the moment.
 

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Getting back to the situation in BC, mainline rail to the west coast might be in for a bit of hurt. I believe this is the CN Thompson River bridge at Lytton, where both CN and CP are within yards of each other.

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Friend of mine is a new CP conductor out of LMD. Trains have stopped. This is bad.E6E76DD8-5670-4934-BF32-B881D7ACA94B.jpeg
 
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From a BC Back-country Hiking FB page:

"Just to let everyone know the consequences of having a campfire with a ban in place. Thursday evening at a Forestry campground in the Kamloops Fire District a group of campers decided they wanted to party and have a campfire as well. The BC Forest Service Fire Warden just happened to arrive to inspect the camp grounds and make sure all the no fire signs were in place. He noticed the partiers and contacted the RCMP. All the campers were charged $1115 fines, because no one would own up to starting the fire. They were all evicted and escorted out of the area."
 

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Well nature has now proven to me that all of my thoughts of maybe moving to Texas or Arizona at some point were bad bad bad ideas. Nope.
I have never seen a place more beautiful than the Arizona desert in Spring.

Edit to add. Yes, I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Flagstaff AZ is in the high ponderosa country. It's 7,000 feet above sea level and has pleasant summers. Would I live in that state? I most certainly would!

Police in B.C. say they've responded to at least 63 sudden death calls since extreme weather began​

Anger grows over B.C. Emergency Health Services' handling of heat wave that left hundreds dead.

There were reports of people in distress waiting several hours before paramedics arrived. Sometimes, when the finally did arrive, the caller was dead.
 

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Anger grows over B.C. Emergency Health Services' handling of heat wave that left hundreds dead.

There were reports of people in distress waiting several hours before paramedics arrived. Sometimes, when the finally did arrive, the caller was dead.

This disaster was a giant cluster f*ck of the highest order, of course, and wholly manageable had the senior leadership paid attention the weather forecast the week before.

'A complete collapse': B.C. paramedic, dispatcher detail weekend of heat-emergency chaos​

 

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This disaster was a giant cluster f*ck of the highest order, of course, and wholly manageable had the senior leadership paid attention the weather forecast the week before.

'A complete collapse': B.C. paramedic, dispatcher detail weekend of heat-emergency chaos​

"The ambulance services is running pretty much at capacity, I mean, on a regular day we’re stretched… So when you add an emergency on top of regular operations, the system isn’t capable of handling it…"

That sounds familiar.
 

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I got a heads up from my friend in the RCMP that things were falling apart before it hit the press, the people on the ground could see it happening.
 
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