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All things Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

MilEME09

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Read as China boned us as usual trying to use vaccine and PPE as bargaining chips
 

Altair

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I don't know if I can classify myself as 'surprised' yet. or not...

Failed deal with China delayed made-in-Canada COVID-19 vaccine plans​

Officials wasted months, spent millions on a lab that never produced a single shot​



The federal government's failed collaboration with a vaccine manufacturing company in China early in the pandemic has led to a delay of nearly two years in efforts to create a made-in-Canada COVID-19 vaccine.

Government documents obtained by The Fifth Estate show that Canadian officials wasted months waiting for a proposed vaccine to arrive from China for further testing and spent millions upgrading a production facility that never made a single dose of COVID-19 vaccine.

The National Research Council of Canada (NRC) signed an agreement with Tianjin-based CanSino Biologics in early May 2020 to "fast-track the availability of a COVID-19 vaccine in Canada for emergency pandemic use."

The CanSino vaccine, which had been created by the scientific research arm of China's military, was to be shipped to Canada for human trials that May. If successful, the vaccine was to be manufactured at a temporary facility in Montreal that the NRC had committed $44 million to upgrade.

The documents reveal that the NRC, the scientific research arm of the Canadian government, was gearing up for production of the vaccine — even before the contract was signed and human trials had started — estimating it could be manufacturing doses by summer 2020.

At first, the NRC would be producing doses for human trials in Canada, then later, according to the contract, "for front-line responders and Canadians as soon as they are available."

"Once fully operational, in the event that CanSino proceeds, NRC will be able to produce 70,000 to 100,000 doses per month," the NRC briefs said.

The NRC asked Dr. Scott Halperin, director of the Canadian Center of Vaccinology in Halifax, to design the clinical trials for CanSino in Canada.

"The NRC and CanSino had previous collaborations well before the pandemic," Halperin said in an interview with The Fifth Estate. "That was leveraged into a working relationship to say: 'Can that be expanded for the current crisis?' "

Vaccine stuck in China​


As the months progressed, the documents also show that the NRC was working to increase the number of doses the facility could produce for the public.

But ultimately, the CanSino vaccine would never get to Canada.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the deal to Canadians on May 16, 2020. But a federal government memo later that same month reveals the Canadian Embassy in Beijing was still working to get the vaccine cleared by China's customs.

"CanSino vaccines are still with customs in China," the memo said. "Embassy has a [meeting] tomorrow. Assuming they get through customs [tomorrow], they can be put on a flight on the 27th."

But the vaccine candidate was not put on a plane on May 27.

I'm not sure I understand.

Are they saying the facility could have made MRNA vaccines if Canada wasn't tied up with sinovac?

or AstraZeneca?

Because I still don't see how we just revive overnight a dormant vaccine manufacturing sector.
 

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Thank God I'm retired so I don't have to work along side a non-vaccinated person.

"Non-vaccinated persons" won't be around where I used to work after 1 Nov.

For years now, they also have to be vaccinated for influenza.
 

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Surface transmission extremely low based on a new study:

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“These results suggest that the risk of exposure from contaminated high-touch surfaces within a food retailer store is low,” the study concluded, adding that this is contingent on the upkeep of sanitation routines, social distancing and monitoring of employee health.

Corradini notes that earlier studies on surface transmission were conducted in labs where variables like temperature, humidity and viral load were controlled.

By contrast, in her study she wanted to look at the risk of surface transmission in real-world settings that people would encounter in their everyday lives.

In order to get the virus via surface transmission a combination of events has to “align perfectly,” she said. “It doesn’t happen often, but it can, but the probability is very low.”

 

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Surface transmission extremely low based on a new study:





 

OldSolduer

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A new thing to worry about: As air travel ramps up again, pilots are out of practice and are making mistakes - like only starting one engine, or forgetting to lower the landing gear on approach.

Just a question from a crayon eater - do pilots not have Checklists?

You know like start engine one, start engine two etc??
 

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Oh my God yes.... please go back to work everyone:


Economist, former federal adviser urges Ottawa to ignore business lobby, close wage subsidy​



Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said last week that she was consulting with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, government policy experts and business leaders on whether to suspend pandemic programs.

A Canadian economist who has served as a social policy adviser to the federal government says Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland should ignore the business lobby’s advice to the contrary and close the federal wage subsidy.

With an estimated total cost of $ 111 billion, the Canada Emergency Law Subsidy (CEWS) has been the largest single element of Ottawa’s $ 286 billion in direct support measures during the COVID-19 pandemic. The subsidy provides money directly to companies whose income has suffered during the pandemic, to cover part of their employees’ salaries.

The program has been adjusted and expanded several times. The latest enlargement, approved just before the federal election campaign, the grant expiration date moved to October 23rd.


“The Treasury Department should not extend Canada’s emergency aid. Time has passed, ”said Miles Corak, a professor at the City University of New York’s Department of Economics, who this week published a paper claiming that CEWS was poorly designed and should not be renewed.

Prof. Corak specializes in the analysis of federal work support programs such as Employment Insurance (EI), and he spent time in 2017 as an economist on a residency with the Federal Department of Employment and Social Development.

The paper was reviewed by other academics who have provided economic policy advice to the federal government in recent years, including Kevin Milligan of the University of British Columbia and Jennifer Robson of Carleton University.

Other pandemic assistance programs scheduled to expire on October 23 include a rent subsidy program for businesses as well as several programs that provide financial assistance directly to individuals who are unable to work for reasons related to COVID-19.

Ms Freeland told reporters last week that she had consulted with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, government policy experts and business leaders
on whether they would end the programs.

The minister’s office said in a statement Monday that the government “will soon announce the next steps.”

 

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Oh my God yes.... please go back to work everyone:


Economist, former federal adviser urges Ottawa to ignore business lobby, close wage subsidy​



Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said last week that she was consulting with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, government policy experts and business leaders on whether to suspend pandemic programs.

A Canadian economist who has served as a social policy adviser to the federal government says Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland should ignore the business lobby’s advice to the contrary and close the federal wage subsidy.

With an estimated total cost of $ 111 billion, the Canada Emergency Law Subsidy (CEWS) has been the largest single element of Ottawa’s $ 286 billion in direct support measures during the COVID-19 pandemic. The subsidy provides money directly to companies whose income has suffered during the pandemic, to cover part of their employees’ salaries.

The program has been adjusted and expanded several times. The latest enlargement, approved just before the federal election campaign, the grant expiration date moved to October 23rd.


“The Treasury Department should not extend Canada’s emergency aid. Time has passed, ”said Miles Corak, a professor at the City University of New York’s Department of Economics, who this week published a paper claiming that CEWS was poorly designed and should not be renewed.

Prof. Corak specializes in the analysis of federal work support programs such as Employment Insurance (EI), and he spent time in 2017 as an economist on a residency with the Federal Department of Employment and Social Development.

The paper was reviewed by other academics who have provided economic policy advice to the federal government in recent years, including Kevin Milligan of the University of British Columbia and Jennifer Robson of Carleton University.

Other pandemic assistance programs scheduled to expire on October 23 include a rent subsidy program for businesses as well as several programs that provide financial assistance directly to individuals who are unable to work for reasons related to COVID-19.

Ms Freeland told reporters last week that she had consulted with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, government policy experts and business leaders
on whether they would end the programs.

The minister’s office said in a statement Monday that the government “will soon announce the next steps.”

How does getting rid of the wage subsidy get people back to work?

It just means companies need to pay the full wage now and depending on how their business is doing due to the pandemic, they may be forced to lay off staff.
 

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How does getting rid of the wage subsidy get people back to work?

It just means companies need to pay the full wage now and depending on how their business is doing due to the pandemic, they may be forced to lay off staff.

When they don't get free money they will need to earn it some way... Onlyfans anyone ?

What's a full wage ?
 

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Don’t worry, it’s not about the money.

It's never about the money


Oh, but when I posted this back in March on reddit I was anti vaxer.
 

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OceanBonfire

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Old news. CDC was saying something similar back in January.


"However, experimental conditions on both porous and non-porous surfaces do not necessarily reflect real-world conditions...", "In fact, laboratory studies try to optimize the recovery of viruses from surfaces..."

Versus Maria Corradini's study (Re-quoting): "Corradini notes that earlier studies on surface transmission were conducted in labs where variables like temperature, humidity and viral load were controlled.

By contrast, in her study she wanted to look at the risk of surface transmission in real-world settings that people would encounter in their everyday lives."
 

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When they don't get free money they will need to earn it some way... Onlyfans anyone ?

What's a full wage ?
LOL you do have a sense of humour - I was kinda worried for a bit.

Every social activist wants the minimum wage increased. NEWS FLASH - minimum wage is an entry level wage and not meant to live on. It's a stepping stone.
Increase the minimum wage, companies hire less staff, more unemployment, more taxes.
 

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Every social activist wants the minimum wage increased. NEWS FLASH - minimum wage is an entry level wage and not meant to live on. It's a stepping stone.
Increase the minimum wage, companies hire less staff, more unemployment, more taxes.

Then it is interesting that the latest winners of the Nobel Prize in Economics received it for research that challenges that conventional wisdom.

A Canadian economist based in the U.S. won the Nobel prize for economics Monday for pioneering research that showed an increase in minimum wage does not lead to less hiring and immigrants do not lower pay for native-born workers, challenging commonly held ideas. . . .
 

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