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  1. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    They saw how willing Washington, Ottawa, Paris and Berlin were all to willing to let Moscow have its way with Kiev and need reassuring that they are not as disposable.
  2. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Hard yes, but certainly easier than freezing over winter.
  3. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    When the choices are switch to the euro to trade commodities or go along with banning Russia from SWIFT and freeze, well, its not much of a choice now is it? As for the USA taking its ball and going home, again, article five and SWIFT are not tied at the hip are they?
  4. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    I don't imagine it to be an easy transition for either party, but Europe isn't a client state of the USA and can more or less do what it pleases. More than likely if Washington felt that this is the path Europe would take they would back down rather than begin the first steps of replacing the...
  5. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    The currency that commodities is traded in. The Europeans appear to be balking at the thought of banning the Russians from SWIFT, probably because they would freeze to death without Russian oil and gas. In order to, you know, survive, instead of using USD for commodities trade Europe and...
  6. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    What is to stop the Europeans and Russians from switching to Euros?
  7. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Depends on the situation. If they break Ukraine in the east and they have nothing credible left in the west to stop them, why stop? As for red lines, what will the west do if they cross the Dnieper that they wouldn't do if Russia invades in a few weeks? War? More sanctions? What? Yup...
  8. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    On an unrelated note, does anyone know any map making companies, I have a feeling a lot of new ones will need to be printed off.
  9. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Or operation market garden, depending on how we see any airborne operation playing out.
  10. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Ah, seen. If I were to place bets on which sort of specialist operation we would see, I would bet on a airborne assault somewhere, maybe a key logistical center that the Russians don't want the Ukrainians blowing up.
  11. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    ...Where could an amphibious landing...land...from the baltic?
  12. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Price to fuel Europe this year, Ukraine. Price to fuel Europe next Olympics, Finland?
  13. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    As goes Germany, as goes Europe. I don't know everything about SWIFT, is it a US run system? Can the USA block Russia and Europe continues with business as usual? Regardless, if this is the case we are seeing a huge public split on the response to Russia.
  14. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Remember the USA saying they would remove Russia from the international banking system dealing a severe blow to the Russian economy? https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2JR1LJ The west couldn't even commit to that. Just rolling over.
  15. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Oh, it's clear they plan do next to nothing and then say it's up to Ukraine to defend itself, just like Afghanistan. The rules have been written now, if you're outside of NATO and Russia or China wanted to conquer you, you're done. US will fun your insurgency. Yup, just going to close their...
  16. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    How long do helicopters last in a scenario where Russia has total air superiority? 1 day or 2 days? The US response to this has been completely asinine
  17. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Winter Olympics start Feb 4th.
  18. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    I think the only thing in question is where do the Russians seem fit to stop. Dnieper might be the best case scenario, but they might just want to crush Ukraine wholesale if they see the opportunity
  19. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Yes yes, a very popular show it would be with G2G walking off every other show.
  20. Altair

    Ukraine - Superthread

    Please don't take me off ignore again please. You're ignore, not ignore stuff reminds me of my ex girlfriends....in high school. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-vaccine-all-eligible-canadians-1.6118908 Why do you feel the need to lie so much? Meh, you cannot back up what you say and...
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