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Would appreciate any answers
« on: August 30, 2010, 05:52:05 »
Hi everyone I recently had my interest sparked for the military and would like to ask a few questions. I do not know yet whether the military is right for me as I am still exploring into this and giving it a lot of thought.

1. What are some of the low stress jobs (if any) in the military and it doesn't matter whether it's army, navy, or air force.

2. Once recruited and given a job how easy is it to lose it? Can your supervisor fire you right away if he/she feels you are unsuitable for the job? And if fired is it easy to change your career in the military and try at something else without retaking the basic military qualification course again?

3. Has anyone from a minority face any discrimination? If so how common is it?

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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 08:20:52 »
Hi everyone I recently had my interest sparked for the military and would like to ask a few questions. I do not know yet whether the military is right for me as I am still exploring into this and giving it a lot of thought.

1. What are some of the low stress jobs (if any) in the military and it doesn't matter whether it's army, navy, or air force.

That all depends on what your definition of "low stress" is.

Do a search on this site and the official CF recruiting site and see what you can come up with.

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2. Once recruited and given a job how easy is it to lose it? Can your supervisor fire you right away if he/she feels you are unsuitable for the job?

If you are incompetent you can be fired from a tasking, not your employment.

That being said if you are still incapable of doing minor taskings without maximum supervision, not show up on time, not being properly turned out, rooms always a mess, rack up debit to the point the collection agencies come calling the unit.....

If that stuff starts to happen, most Snr NCOs will make it their priority to sort you out (warnings, extra work, charges) or get you released as an administrative burden.

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And if fired is it easy to change your career in the military and try at something else without retaking the basic military qualification course again?

If you are released....your gone for good.

You can OT (Occupational Transfer) to another trade if the one you are in isn't to your expectations or you just plain hate it, it's not easy for everyone depending on what trade you want out of and what you want to get into. You'd have to get in touch with a BPSO on base to inquire further. First join the CF.

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3. Has anyone from a minority face any discrimination? If so how common is it?

Of course there is discrimination. However it's in the more common realm of a person not being able to do their job, always late, maximum supervision etc....a sack of shyte in other words.

There has been instances of discrimination at times, I was on the receiving end of it eons ago due to my family background. It literally made my work environment very caustic and unbearable to the point I took matters into my own hands and got it sorted out. In those days there were no harassment advisors or any form of a system to get it sorted out. This was in the late '80s.

Things have improved BIG TIME since then.

I have not seen nor heard of any instances of discrimination in any unit that I've been in in the past 10 years but that doesn't mean it's not happening...just a positive indicator.

Don't let your own preconceived notions of what the military is like stop you from joining. Good luck.

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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 08:40:58 »
Not really much to add after DP's all-inclusive post.

It kind of makes me scratch my head when someone seeks out the lowest level of responsibility/stress possible, and my first response is that perhaps a life in any trade in the CF is not right for you.

If you really insist, go to your local recruiting centre and find out what jobs are even open because right now we're full on a lot.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 13:21:19 »
I would have to say that if you are worried about stress, the military is the wrong place for you.  Although we have many occupations that relate to civilian jobs is some way (and many others that don't even come close), the bottom line is that no matter what your occupation*, you may be called upon to pick up a weapon and fight.  Warfare in general is a very stressful activity.

*Chaplains are a possible exception. but their jobs can be incredibly stressful. 
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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 13:24:49 »
Heck!  Even keeping up with your paperwork and administration can be stressful. 
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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 13:29:24 »
Heck!  Even keeping up with your paperwork and administration can be stressful.

I concur.  While no lives are in imminent danger, an Adjutant requesting things (be in PERs or something that has to be fully bilingual) can make one wish for a simpler life involving only killing the enemy.
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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 13:54:20 »

1. What are some of the low stress jobs (if any) in the military and it doesn't matter whether it's army, navy, or air force.

2. Once recruited and given a job how easy is it to lose it? Can your supervisor fire you right away if he/she feels you are unsuitable for the job? And if fired is it easy to change your career in the military and try at something else without retaking the basic military qualification course again?

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I would think that anyone looking at a career in the CF would naturally want a challenge. Not to be too blunt but one doesn't usually equate "low stress" and "Armed Forces" together.

I'm not sure if looking at career choices and wondering how hard it would be for one to get fired is a very "can-do" approach. If you are always factoring in the failure factor in your lifes decisions...how do you ever expand your horizons?

Why not get down to a CF recruiter, and do a little job exploration....
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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 14:55:42 »
I recently finished the 2 week Officer pre-BMOQ recruit camp at CMR St Jean and there were people there who even found that quite stressful.   As previously stated the military will have stress wherever you work including training and heck even  waiting for an acceptance can be stressful.

Visit your local recruiting centre they can steer you in the direction you want to go.
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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2010, 03:28:36 »
That all depends on what your definition of "low stress" is.

Do a search on this site and the official CF recruiting site and see what you can come up with.

If you are incompetent you can be fired from a tasking, not your employment.

That being said if you are still incapable of doing minor taskings without maximum supervision, not show up on time, not being properly turned out, rooms always a mess, rack up debit to the point the collection agencies come calling the unit.....

If that stuff starts to happen, most Snr NCOs will make it their priority to sort you out (warnings, extra work, charges) or get you released as an administrative burden.

If you are released....your gone for good.

You can OT (Occupational Transfer) to another trade if the one you are in isn't to your expectations or you just plain hate it, it's not easy for everyone depending on what trade you want out of and what you want to get into. You'd have to get in touch with a BPSO on base to inquire further. First join the CF.

Of course there is discrimination. However it's in the more common realm of a person not being able to do their job, always late, maximum supervision etc....a sack of shyte in other words.

There has been instances of discrimination at times, I was on the receiving end of it eons ago due to my family background. It literally made my work environment very caustic and unbearable to the point I took matters into my own hands and got it sorted out. In those days there were no harassment advisors or any form of a system to get it sorted out. This was in the late '80s.

Things have improved BIG TIME since then.

I have not seen nor heard of any instances of discrimination in any unit that I've been in in the past 10 years but that doesn't mean it's not happening...just a positive indicator.

Don't let your own preconceived notions of what the military is like stop you from joining. Good luck.

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This is a very informative post. Thanks  :)

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Re: Would appreciate any answers
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2010, 21:44:33 »
Heck!  Even keeping up with your paperwork and administration can be stressful.

Try keeping up with the paperwork and administration of everyone in your unit. ;) 
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