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Offline nairna

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2010, 14:20:34 »
Oh, I do recall a recruiter telling me that they don't close due to the fact that they are "future positions" so everyone has an equal chance of acceptance into it? Also I received the list of "open trades" as of July 21st and all "ROTP trades" are open.

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2010, 19:52:47 »
Oh, I do recall a recruiter telling me that they don't close due to the fact that they are "future positions" so everyone has an equal chance of acceptance into it? Also I received the list of "open trades" as of July 21st and all "ROTP trades" are open.

As far as I know the positions open vary year to year because of demand.  Which I feel would mean that they indeed can close.

the difficult 6 week long Survival Instructor course

I would (if I were you) just add that you have continued in cadets and have completed a senior course.  I would omit words like hard or anything that makes it seem difficult in comparison to other courses.  Not just because other courses are difficult in different ways but also... I taught that course for 2 years back in the day and would not put it and hard in the same sentence.  But just my opinion. 

Still   Good luck
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2010, 14:26:32 »
Rogo: Well, of course, Survival Instructor is nothing compared to what I will face in training for the Reg Force. However, as Air Cadet summer courses go, it is on the more difficult side of them, and I'm rather proud to have finished it. 5 days in the wilderness by myself with few supplies is no mean feat, afterall. However, I know what you're saying, and I'll phrase it as you said, and only mention which course if the recruiter asks me.

Nairna: I hope that's true. If not, I still have my options. And if none of this works out, I'll go to a civvie university the normal way, and then go DEO when I finish my degree, haha.

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2010, 22:00:21 »
PrarieBoy: that's the attitude! :)

On a side note, does anyone know what day officially ROTP applications open? Is it September 1st? I never received a straight answer when I spoke with the recruiter, it was just a "early September"

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2010, 17:07:31 »
Well they don't close until early/mid January so any time in the fall should be fine but I know this past year I started mine around late september and had oogles of time left.   

And Prairie Boy... 5 day SMR (2.5 trio, 2.5 solo).     I taught it, I would know  :salute: :camo:
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2010, 03:12:36 »
Does anyone else hear feel a nagging little bit of uncertainty in the back of their minds about this? A little bit of unconfidence, somewhere deep inside you, praying on that fear that you won't be good enough for the Forces? I mean, I passed the CFAT last time I went through this process, and I was told that I passed the qualification level required for officer applicants, so I know I have it in me to do this, but I still feel a bit unconfident about it, and I don't know why. Does anyone know how to deal with that little voice in your head that tells you that you're not good enough? I've had it with me all my life...

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2010, 09:44:04 »
Heck yes. It's been eating away at me for the last week. Then I start to wonder what I'll do if I don't get in. Ugh.
I hate this feeling. When they told me last year that I didn't make it, that feeling of getting punched in the gut was worse. Meanwhile, I suppose I'll just keep on running and doing weights. (I'm still not getting any bigger muscles. Damn Asian and Native genes are working against me)

On a side note, I wonder if they're going to even look at my application. It seems that I may have applied too early after reading the previous posts.
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2010, 11:21:36 »
Give them a call and ask, the recruiters will know if its too early.   
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2010, 11:29:31 »
On a side note, I wonder if they're going to even look at my application. It seems that I may have applied too early after reading the previous posts.

I tried to apply for ROTP 2009-2010 in February of 2009 but missed the deadline much like you. I applied again soon after for ROTP 2010-2011 and waited a long year and three months until I was selected. So if you think you applied too early, you didn't, the only problem I had with applying so early was having to wait soooo long until this year's selections. As long as you gave your updated 2011-2012 ROTP questionnaire (I think that's what it's called) to your CFRC you should be good. However, all CFRCs are different. So, as Rogo said, just give them a call. Also, be prepared for update interviews and more paperwork as the new year approaches, but as for applying too early...I did it and it worked, so just enjoy the loooong wait  ;).

As for the voice, it's a little thing called "no self-confidence". You need to tell your self you are good enough, tell yourself you are bigger, tell yourself you are smarter. The problem you guys have is that you think so low of yourselves that even when you run and do weights and get bigger, you still view yourself as the same size and fitness level. When you study and get good grades, you still think you're at the bottom of the pack. The brain does wonders on your perception of yourself. So switching that view around and purposely telling yourself all the time you are getting bigger, smarter, faster, etc, soon you will see your confidence rise. All you have to do is KNOW you are good enough and tell yourself that all the time, it's a simple as that. I dealt with the same problem when I was younger but thinking positive works, and although it's cliche, it's definitely helped my confidence. That's just my two cents though...Cheers, and good luck to everyone next year.
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2010, 13:10:46 »
Here's another confidence builder.  Do this program for pushups http://www.hundredpushups.com/test.html


Not only does this get you better at push ups you will be able to compare your progress from when you started to wherever you are at the moment.   You will improve.   Try it and soon once you realise you can improve with push ups you will see that you can improve other aspects of your application too.

Keep your chin up.
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2010, 21:43:26 »
Thanks guys, that helped tremendously. I also just found out I need to work on my push ups. They suck.  :P
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2010, 21:52:03 »
No worries   in a few weeks if you stick with it you may not be doing 100 or even 50 but you'll be doing more than today :)   
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2010, 22:53:29 »
I went to the CFRC today. I was pleased to learn that they had kept my file open, so all I had to do was give them my updated transcript of marks, and then fill out a new RMC academic questionnaire. Tomorrow, I'll hand in that questionnaire, and schedule a new interview  ;D

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2010, 01:47:33 »
Hey guys, went to the CFRC today. My file was lost lol. So now I have to redo all my paper work, but I'm actually happy about it because I feel like I'm starting fresh with everything as relevant as possible. How's everyone else doing?

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2010, 11:06:41 »
Hey guys, went to the CFRC today. My file was lost lol. So now I have to redo all my paper work, but I'm actually happy about it because I feel like I'm starting fresh with everything as relevant as possible. How's everyone else doing?

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2010, 11:56:32 »
First day back to school today! The pressure is building as my anticipation grows of the coming months for my ROTP application.

Just a question for everyone, is anyone from the Toronto area applying this year on here? Or even anyone from Ryerson?

Hope everyone is doing well!

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2010, 17:23:58 »
Hey guys! I'm going to be applying for ROTP as well. I've been through the process before, so hopefully there's no more speed bumps this time! I'm a first year Pharmacy student, so I'll be applying for pharmacist (obviously) and MARS as my back up in case I'm not happy with the pharmacy idea.

Hopefully I'll manage to get my paper work in before the end of the month!

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2010, 21:46:07 »
What needs to be done to reapply exactly? I have quite a bit more work and school experience since last year. AFAIK my file is still open and was told to reapply by my recruiter. I live now in Vancouver going to UBC I originally applied when I was working/living in Toronto.

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2010, 10:02:39 »
Visit a recruiting centre in Vancouver and have them request your file be sent from Toronto. It will save you some hassle compared to doing a full new application.  They will outline the procedure though at the RC.
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2010, 20:52:19 »
Hey everyone! I have been looking around this site for awhile now and thought I should finally post something, so here goes my first post.

I am applying for ROTP as well this year for the Royal Military College and Intelligence Officer as my first choices. I just handed in my application on Tuesday (the 14th) and was prepared to have to wait forever to get a call, but I must just be really lucky because two days later (the 16th), I get a call from the recruiting centre to come in for the aptitude test, medical, and interview on the 30th of September. Now all I can do is wait for the 30th and keep my nerves at bay!

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2010, 09:32:56 »
Congrats.

The application process can be long and drawn out, so it's good that you have it all started early. Getting it done before Christmas should ensure no one looses your file during pre-christmas break piss-up (jk).  :cheers:

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2010, 10:12:02 »
Hey everyone, good to see so many new posts being added! I have a question for anyone who may have already completed their application or anyone who was accepted to ROTP last round. What did you guys write about for the last question on the ROTP questionnaire " why do you want to be in ROTP" did you guys write about yourself and your experiences? Or simply the reasons why you wanted to be in it? And roughly how long is acceptable without over doing it?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2010, 15:39:16 »
Hey nairna, for the last question I simply just wrote why I wanted to attend RMC and it ended up being about a page and a half long. Whether it was too long or short I have no idea, but they do give you two pages so I figured it was long enough. 

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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2010, 16:22:17 »
Try to explain your desires to be a member of the forces and how you and them benefit from your acceptance.   It's like a short resume of your life as it pertains to the CF.   Atleast that is what I did.
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Re: ROTP 2011-2012
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2010, 16:54:00 »
Hi all!

A little bit about me: I'm a 22 years old meteorology student living in Montréal. I started my civilian pilot training a bit less than 2 years ago when I was mistakenly told by a recruiter (the day came to apply for ROTP-RMC) that the CF were not hiring any pilots and would not either in the following years. Flying for something else than the CF was really not my first choice, but at the time I thought there was no other choice as far as flying goes. I have flown around 170 hours on a couple of different airplanes and wrote my Commercial Written Exam. I'm not going to apply for the Commercial Licence since I want a safety net (to be able to apply the following year) in case I fail at Trenton ASC.

I applied for Pilot through ROTP (civi-U) on May 13th (the day after I learned that the CF did actually hire a couple of pilots!) in Montréal CFRC, but it was obviously too late for 2010-2011. I was finally contacted today and will write the CFAT on Sept 28th. Anyone else applying in Montréal?

Good luck to everyone, and keep on giving updates, it's encouraging!

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