Author Topic: Recruiting Process of naturalized Canadian (Read 14177 times)

sky777 · « **on:** September 03, 2009, 23:46:10 »

Hi there!
I want to share my experince.I was not born in Canada.I came here 4 years and a few month ago.
a few weeks ago I received my citizenship card and decided to do application in CF.
Aug,28,2009
Starting Process
I took with me :
1. 4 Application Forms.
2. Citizen card
3.Evaluation of my University Diploma from Minister of Education Of Quebec.
4.My Canadian College Diploma ( I did study here in Canada,after I immigrated here).
5.My ID with photo
People were friendly there (CFRC Montreal) as ussual.Officer checked my papers,did copy of my cards and diplomas.And after that he said that process can take about 6 months.

sky777 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2009, 23:48:55 »

2.
First call from CFRC
Sep,3,2009
After less then 1 weak after I gave my application to CFRC my references people received phone calls to give reference about me.
It is OK.But today my boss was giving my paycheck and he said :"Hello Mr. Colonel!" And after that he explained that somebody called him and ask about me according my application for Canada Forces. I was really shock, because I was not going to tell my boss till process will finish.I even marked in my application form about it.But they called.After that I recived phone call from CFRC to visit them and give additional information.
So I visited this evening (they work on Thursday till 21.00) and gave all additional information.
hey were surprised that I didn't live in Canada last5 years.I lived only 4 years and a few months in Canada.They are not sure how much time security check ( from 1 to 18 months!!!!

) can take.BUT,there is not information on the website and anywhere that you must live 5 years in Canada, before doing application.

Retired FDO · « **Reply #2 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:24:55 »

You do not have to have any time in Canada to put in an application. Just be a Canadian Citizen. They did not refuse your application they just told you that because you did not have 5 years in the country you would have to have a background check done on you and your family. It could take up to 18 months depending on how fast your home country gets the info back to us. We need to make sure we are not letting people into the military that are not more patriotic to a country that could do Canada or Canadians harm.

If you looked at ALL the papers in your application package the first one should be "Pre-enrolment Security Clearance Pre-Assessment Questionnaire"

Right on the top it says "A security clearance Pre-assessment is necessary if an applicant:

Security Clearance Pre-assessment is necessary if an applicant:
a. Is not a Canadian citizen.

b. Has resided outside Canada in a country other than Australia, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy,
Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom (includes England, Scotland, Wales
and Northern Ireland) and the United States in the last five years.

c. Has traveled or studied outside of Canada in countries other than those listed in para b. in excess of 180 continuous days.

d. Has worked outside of Canada in countries other than those listed in para b. for a non-Government of Canada Agency in excess of
180 continuous days.

e. Has immediate relatives who are currently residing in a country other than those listed in para b.

Pieman · « **Reply #3 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:38:09 »

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They are not sure how much time security check ( from 1 to 18 months!!!! )

Don't count on it taking only a month

I think mine took 8 months to go through, and only lived outside the country a couple of years at that time.

sky777 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 04, 2009, 09:34:21 »

Thanks FDO for all explanation.
In my case I have lived in Canada since 2005.Before I lived in Eastern Europe(non member of NATO,but country is going to be in NATO).
My parents are dead, but I have parents-in-law who live in my country of origin.
So I have 2 points for check.

goldenhamster · « **Reply #5 on:** December 26, 2009, 13:34:34 »

I got a call earlier this week, a job offer in CF. I was surprised the whole process took "only" 11 months (including 3 months waiting for laser eye surgery), since I am a naturalized Canadian. I have lived almost 8 yrs in Canada, got my citizenship in 2007. I was told that I have to undergo security clearance that may take up to 2 years! I learn from the recruiter that Ottawa decided not to do that lengthy security clearance on me. But again, everyone's process is different, so please don't generalize.

Can't wait to start! I have been loaded to Jan 25th BMOQ, but I might have to delay my enrollment. I cannot just walk away from my current job immediately. Time to intensify my

and

MasterInstructor · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2009, 02:23:45 »

Turkey is no longer in that list. If you have a immediate family member in Turkey, you do need pre-clearence.

cheers

sky777 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2009, 02:26:51 »

Quote from: goldenhamster on December 26, 2009, 13:34:34

I got a call earlier this week, a job offer in CF. I was surprised the whole process took "only" 11 months (including 3 months waiting for laser eye surgery), since I am a naturalized Canadian. I have lived almost 8 yrs in Canada, got my citizenship in 2007. I was told that I have to undergo security clearance that may take up to 2 years! I learn from the recruiter that Ottawa decided not to do that lengthy security clearance on me. But again, everyone's process is different, so please don't generalize.

Can't wait to start! I have been loaded to Jan 25th BMOQ, but I might have to delay my enrollment. I cannot just walk away from my current job immediately. Time to intensify my and

Good luck and thanks for sharing experience.
I am in waiting process for 4 months- waiting for security clearance.

goldenhamster · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:46:04 »

Thanks Sky777

Good luck on your application too. The waiting game surely tests our patience

MasterInstructor · « **Reply #9 on:** January 08, 2010, 23:17:51 »

Well, I got a call for my medical... When I asked if my pre-clearence came back, answer was no. And actually according to their records, my pre-clearence form was never sent off even tough I submitted 1.5 months ago. When I asked for explanation, I was told that I was lucky and he was not sure as well but my application was moving forward... Oh well, I am not complaining!

goldenhamster · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2010, 12:33:24 »

Quote from: MasterInstructor on January 08, 2010, 23:17:51

Well, I got a call for my medical... When I asked if my pre-clearence came back, answer was no. And actually according to their records, my pre-clearence form was never sent off even tough I submitted 1.5 months ago. When I asked for explanation, I was told that I was lucky and he was not sure as well but my application was moving forward... Oh well, I am not complaining!

Hi there,
Just my

keep in touch w/ your recruiter, particularly checking the status of that pre-sec regularly and updating your current contact info. Sometimes slip up does happen

good luck for everything

sky777 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2010, 11:59:08 »

I continue to inform how is going application process.
I received phone call today from CFRC.
My Security Check is in process.It can take additional 6 to 18 months .I started my application 5 months ago.
So minimum can be 5 + 6= 11 months?
Hey anybody is in the same boat?

sky777 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2010, 21:17:52 »

Hi there,

Things move very slowly in my case.

A few months ago I was asked to give papers that I don't have criminal records in my country of origin. I got this paper and gave it to CFRC.

This week I received letter with request to fill SECURITY CLEARANCE FORM 330-60.I was surprised a little bit because when I was given my Application Form recruiter told me that I don't need to fill l 330-60,And after 6 months they decided to ask me to fill.So I did it. (Did I loose 6 months?)

I just think about my last 10 years of life.It was much easy to fill information about my Canadian life.But I came here from Eastern Europe where economical situation is not stable and I am not sure if companies where I have worked still are exist. Or my supervisors still work there.

CDN Aviator · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2010, 00:09:25 »

Quote from: sky777 on February 10, 2010, 21:17:52

I am not sure if companies where I have worked still are exist. Or my supervisors still work there.

It doesnt matter. Put down the places you were working and all the information that is requested as it was at the time you worked there.

sky777 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2010, 00:17:26 »

Quote from: CDN Aviator on February 11, 2010, 00:09:25

It doesnt matter. Put down the places you were working and all the information that is requested as it was at the time you worked there.

Yes,
You are right.I did the same.I hope it takes no too much time....(pre-assessment).
I am still waiting for CFAT ....

sky777 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 09, 2010, 15:25:15 »

Today I had security interview according my security clearance. ( I didn`t live in Canada full 10 years).
It was really not big deal.
I felt very comfortable with this.I just answered questions and all.It was very friendly atmosphere like kind of job interview.
If you have security interview - just relax and answer questions about yourself.

2010newbie · « **Reply #16 on:** June 09, 2010, 15:36:27 »

That's good to hear Sky! Good luck with the rest of the process!

sky777 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 09, 2010, 15:48:36 »

Quote from: 2010newbie on June 09, 2010, 15:36:27

That's good to hear Sky! Good luck with the rest of the process!

Thanks 2010newbie.
Now I am waiting for decision and hope to get the invitattion for CFAT.

sky777 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 25, 2010, 16:11:56 »

Almost 2 months have gone since I have had security interview .Worker of CSIS told me that my file will be sent during one month. But there aren't news for now .Or season of vacation can delay files or something different?

kincanucks · « **Reply #19 on:** July 25, 2010, 18:55:27 »

Quote from: sky777 on July 25, 2010, 16:11:56

Almost 2 months have gone since I have had security interview .Worker of CSIS told me that my file will be sent during one month. But there aren't news for now .Or season of vacation can delay files or something different?

Your interview is not the end of the process.

sky777 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:14:58 »

Quote from: kincanucks on July 25, 2010, 18:55:27

Your interview is not the end of the process.

Yes, I hope.
Today I was in my CFRC:"Your file is in process in Ottawa."
By the way I installed in my cell phone countdown option from day of my application.Today was 333 days.
I hope to get something new before 444 days...

guysletsdoit · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2010, 11:52:14 »

Hello:

First congratulations that you went to CFRC and applied. First step in correct direction. Yes they will condut CFAT regardless of you security check. But after CFAT is they actual wait. I am naturalized Canadian and have lived in Canada for 9years now, 3 years as permanent resident and 5 years as citizen. But I was born and grew in in non NATO country. I was really frustrated after about 4months when they did not reply. I argued my logic all the way upto the Provost Marshal and MPs and indeed they helped me but still I was subjected to the process. It took 16months for the process. Now that I am declared medically fit and recommended to NOAB by interviewing officer, I am still waiting for next NOAB. Be prepared for an endless wait but just imagine the respect you get in that uniform. Now that I am waiting for NOAB, I have started telling people about my CF application and to my pleasant surprise the casual behaviour towards me suddenly changed to respect. I am so happy that I survived the process through perseverance. Make sure you know what you are getting into, get as much information you need, get your finances in place, workout and just keep at it. Call CFRC every month to find about your application.

K

sky777 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 01, 2010, 11:23:57 »

Quote from: guysletsdoit on July 29, 2010, 11:52:14

Hello:

First congratulations that you went to CFRC and applied. First step in correct direction. Yes they will condut CFAT regardless of you security check. But after CFAT is they actual wait. I am naturalized Canadian and have lived in Canada for 9years now, 3 years as permanent resident and 5 years as citizen. But I was born and grew in in non NATO country. I was really frustrated after about 4months when they did not reply. I argued my logic all the way upto the Provost Marshal and MPs and indeed they helped me but still I was subjected to the process. It took 16months for the process. Now that I am declared medically fit and recommended to NOAB by interviewing officer, I am still waiting for next NOAB. Be prepared for an endless wait but just imagine the respect you get in that uniform. Now that I am waiting for NOAB, I have started telling people about my CF application and to my pleasant surprise the casual behaviour towards me suddenly changed to respect. I am so happy that I survived the process through perseverance. Make sure you know what you are getting into, get as much information you need, get your finances in place, workout and just keep at it. Call CFRC every month to find about your application.

K

Hi man, Thanks for your message.
Your story encouraged me in my waiting process. I wish you to start your BMQ (or BMOQ) as soon as possible. After your post I decided just relax and live like I never applied to CF. And one day I can get ( I hope) the phone call from CFRC . My immigration process from Application form till visa has taken almost 3 years. Again thank you for your posting.
I feel relaxed. I recommend everybody enjoy their lives but not living in waiting process.

Barbarossa · « **Reply #23 on:** August 05, 2010, 22:49:06 »

Hey Guys, I have come here to the forums because to be honest, I feel like the recruiting process is a mess right now and I am not sure what and who to trust. Case in point is, I have checked the Forces.ca website and I searched for the "hot jobs" and it returned a list of which I liked some of them for a trade. I went to the Recruiting Office here in Toronto and I was told that the LCIS tech was open. I went home to review the open trade and to do further research on this profession. I then asked my father back in the Philippines to send me my official High School transcripts while I also filled out an application online, gathered and asked for references, and also got all my Canadian transcript of record. I have a Business Administration diploma. When I came back about a month later, RC told me that most of those hot jobs are closed. In short, what the website is saying and the recruiting centre doesn't match sometimes.

I went back to the Recruiting Centre and I was told the LCIS tech is now closed. Recruiter told me I was a good candidate for my second option which is RMS clerk however that is also closed and I have to wait until April. I asked him about references and if it were permissible to list down my references from my former country. He firmly said no and he said that only Canadian residents were allowed to be references. I then mentioned to him that I also talked to the online recruiter and that the recruiter said it was ok to use foreign references. He then double checked and checked from a person in their office it what I was saying is true and yes it was. Foreign references are acceptable although Canadian references are very much preferred.

My worry is that and I don't intend to insult anybody here, is that I don't know if I can trust his answers to my questions. One of the guys there told me last month ago that the LCIS tech is open yet the person that I was talking to today told me that the LCIS position has been closed now for a couple of months. I don't know who to believe anymore and the more I go to the RC and ask more questions, the more confusing it gets with the different answers that I get from the different people working there. Here are my concerns and I hope you can help me.

1. I applied for the LCIS tech position and although it is closed now, he said that this position is security level 2 which means you must have resided in Canada for at least 7 years. I have only been here around 5 years. Is this true? I have browsed the forums for these and there was a thread that a naturalized Canadian wants to be an officer even though he is only been around here less than 5 years and I have not read from him that this is an obstacle. For an officer you are not required security clearance but for a NCM you must have one??

2. An option for me would be to wait until April when more trades will be available and I would just sign up for the RMS clerk position with which I have a relevant education background and then switch to LCIS tech after the required 3 years of service.
Do you guys think this is a good idea? Suppose that I make it into Corporal as an RMS clerk and then I switch to LCIS. Would I be demoted while I undergo occupational training for the LCIS trade?

3. 3rd option for me is to wait out the required 7 years and get another diploma as an Electrical technician. I am however worried that the demands of the Army will again change in those 2 years and make my education unwanted.

And more questions..

4. As a naturalized Canadian, I understand that I have more security to clear than those who were born here. Also, my father currently lives in the Philippines and works for the government there. What steps should I take to hasten up the application process?

I hope you guys can help clear up some things on my mind.

Barbarossa · « **Reply #24 on:** August 05, 2010, 23:18:22 »

No reps or advice? Is my situation too unique or did I not make my situation clear enough? I need some inputs please and I would be willing to provide more details if needed.

Thank you.

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Author Topic: Recruiting Process of naturalized Canadian (Read 14177 times)