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Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« on: August 11, 2009, 07:48:36 »
After seeing just one too many posts where someone claimed that they had called "their" Recruiter several hundred times and had no response, I thought about it and decided to put together these tips for everyone on contacting a Recruiter post-initial contact/application.

1) Patience - Recruiters are people, like any other. We have lives, take vacations etc. Quite often, we aren't in the office - WE'RE RECRUITERS! - we're on the road recruiting. We're at events, job fairs, meetings, giving presentations, answering questions, giving out business cards, working the front desk / customer service etc. We aren't going to be available to your beck and call at all times. We know that this is important to you and your life, but you have to understand that we are doing our best to help everyone.

2) Phone etiquette - Remember that Recruiters deal with dozens of people PER DAY. If you leave a message on my phone, "Hi, this is so and so (often garbelled) please call me back" ... you are not going to get a call back. I don't necessarily have the time to figure out WHO you are, go look up your file to find out your phone number and your current situation, and then call you back! Leave a brief, concise message with who you are (speak clearly, especially if you have an accent), your phone number, and what information you're looking for (again, BE BRIEF!) Basically, help us help you. Similarly, if you leave a long rambling message telling me your entire life story of how desperate you are to join because you've always wanted to be Military, ever since you were an embryo, I will move on to help the next person.

3) E-mail etiquette - PUT A TITLE ON YOUR E-MAIL! Like everyone else on the planet, I get spam. If I think it may be spam, I may inadvertently delete it. If you give it a brief title with who you are or what you want, I may be more inclined to read the whole thing. Again, I don't want your entire life story, but a brief description of who you are and what you want will suffice.

Quick note - E-mail is preferable to phone as it's more descriptive and I can make notes on it and come back to it later if I don't immediately have time to research your answer! Plus, I have no hesitation to answering an e-mail after 6pm whereas I will not call someone that late in the day.

Lastly, I again want to stress, we know this is a major life decision, life changing event to YOU, but it's also a major, life changing event to the 30 other people we're personally dealing with that week. Not to mention the 150 or so other people we casually just talk to, or meet at an event, or try to help out while in the office. The nicer you are to us, the more likely we are to WANT to go out of our way to help you get that job you're looking for!
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 08:04:29 »
Great post, Otis.  Mods, this should be a sticky.   :nod:
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 18:53:26 »
Thanks for the great tips Otis! Will definitely keep them in mind when making my way through the recruiting process.

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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 19:03:11 »
Otis, this should be made into an DND XXX document and issue to everyone who applies to the CF/

Great post.
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2009, 00:44:40 »
Otis,

Milpoints were made to reward valued posts and I have made my +1 (+150) to you already. I had to point this out (no pun) in case new members did not know the value of Milpoints.

IMO, Otis deserves +100 and more for his efforts in answering recuriting Q&As on the site.
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 00:51:57 »
I had to point this out (no pun) in case new members did not know the value of Milpoints.

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IMO, Otis deserves +100 and more for his efforts in answering recuriting Q&As on the site.

I agree and i will give Otis a bunch of milpoints as well, thanks for bringing it up.
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 10:22:10 »
If I could add another one: Remember names!


I worked the desk at a Recruiting Centre and I can't tell you how many people called or dropped by looking for "that recruiter I talked to last week" or "some Captain." At which point I had to run around the office seeing if anyone had heard of this knob, and as Otis mentioned, they usually have too many to remember each name.

I realize ranks can be confusing, nobody will fault you for not knowing ranks as an applicant, but we all wear convenient little name tags. REMEMBER NAMES!
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2009, 10:44:50 »
Thanks Benny, I forgot that one!

Thanks everyone else for the Kudos and milpoints ... I'm not sure what to do with them (I looked once, not very hard, never found out) but I appreciate the sentiment ... :)

Now if all new applicants read this post, they (and thier CFRC) will have a much happier Recruiting experience!

Cheers!
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 11:02:38 »
Thanks Benny, I forgot that one!

Thanks everyone else for the Kudos and milpoints ... I'm not sure what to do with them (I looked once, not very hard, never found out) but I appreciate the sentiment ... :)

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I'm not too sure about the Milpoints, either - but you are (so far) the only person I've taken the time to give some to.

Yours was an extremely valuable post.

Now get back to work.  ;)

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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 12:43:55 »
If I could be so bold as to add one as well.  Even though I am in the process of getting back in, I was previously in the military.  My advise would be to ensure that you treat those members of the RC that you speak to as if you were already in the military. By that, I mean with the upmost respect that they are due. Learn racks and use them. "Thank you for that information Sergeant" or "Yes, Sir" but not like you are at BMQ, but with simple respect, regardless of their rank. They have earned in and deserve it. 

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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2009, 13:59:55 »
If I could add another one: Remember names!

Perhaps it would be helpful if on one of the forms that are given to applicants, the Recruiter writes their name and rank in pen/marker? Just so that the applicant knows if they do need to contact their recruiter, they'll have his or her name.

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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 14:36:48 »
I was given a business card with all of the necessary information. As well, when I did speak to someone different, I made certain to write their name down for future refernce.  I would think that anyone who is serious about getting in would take these types of steps. It shows a level of seriousness and professionalism that, in my belief, should be expected of anyone in such a professional business as the military.  I have done the same thing with any job that I have applied for in the past.


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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 22:43:13 »
Perhaps it would be helpful if on one of the forms that are given to applicants, the Recruiter writes their name and rank in pen/marker? Just so that the applicant knows if they do need to contact their recruiter, they'll have his or her name.

We can't write on the forms, they have to be handed in.

We often DO write our name on the information hand-out sheets, or give out cards ... people lose them, don't have them with them when they call in .. whatever. Besides that, often applicants deal with several recruiters throughout the course of the process.
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Re: Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 22:51:36 »
This thread has generated some discussion.  In the interest of NOT polluting the intent of this thread - I've split the discussion off.

The discussion can be found here:  http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,88472.0.html

I've locked the thread - if you have anything to add to it regarding Tips on contacting "your" Recruiter - contact one of the DS.

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