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Re: Sapper Mike McTeague Wounded Warrior Fund
« Reply #150 on: January 17, 2007, 15:15:13 »
Boy oh boy guys....................................

I will attempt to make myself clear On the subj of "charity" yes we are in the process of incorporation and yes we will seek charitable tax status and yes one will be able to soon make a donation via paypal. All that being said funds such as this one and the Regimental funds clearly resonate with Canadians as an effective way to show their support to their troops.  Canadians are doing this from the bottom of their hearts and a tax receipt is at the bottom of the list as a motivator. As Gunner98 pointed out I do not view this as "charity" rather this is the right thing for Canadians to do. Canadians are doing this everyday sending packages over to the troops. I suppose one could think of that as charity. I prefer to think of it as Canadians showing their support. All I am saying is that by supporting a fund (any fund) that assists the wounded is a great way to show support to those who have gave all.

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I fully agree that there are other great funds etc out there doing great work. This fund however has differant goals than Regimental funds not better just differant. At the end of the day folks have a choice as to what cause to support. I would suggest they are all worthy and have a place in helping in the healing process.I ask that you go to the web site to see the goals of the fund www.woundedwarriors.ca I think you will agree we have a somewhat differant focus than Regimental funds not better just differant.......................

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Re: Sapper Mike McTeague Wounded Warrior Fund
« Reply #151 on: January 17, 2007, 15:22:48 »
"yes we are in the process of incorporation and yes we will seek charitable tax status"

I look fwd to seeing you guys on the GCWCC list next year for payroll deduction.

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« Reply #152 on: January 17, 2007, 15:26:10 »
So do I

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Re: Sapper Mike McTeague Wounded Warrior Fund
« Reply #153 on: January 17, 2007, 15:32:05 »
Remember that an organization may be eligible to issue a tax receipt for donations for the year in which they applied and were granted their Charitable Tax status.  So even if Capt J's org cannot issue a receipt right now, upon successful completion of their Letters of Patent and Charitable Tax Number application they will be able to reach back to Jan 01/07 to issue receipts. 
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Re: Sapper Mike McTeague Wounded Warrior Fund
« Reply #154 on: January 17, 2007, 16:10:28 »
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You are so right on that one. I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to work through the minefield of bureaucracy. I am told by Ottawa we are good to go re Incorporation awaiting confirmation via letter. Next step Rev Can. The good news is I have a chap inside who will "fasttrack" it but I am sure it will be a few months.

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Re: Sapper Mike McTeague Wounded Warrior Fund
« Reply #155 on: January 17, 2007, 16:17:28 »
Boy oh boy guys....................................

I will attempt to make myself clear On the subj of "charity" yes we are in the process of incorporation and yes we will seek charitable tax status and yes one will be able to soon make a donation via paypal. All that being said funds such as this one and the Regimental funds clearly resonate with Canadians as an effective way to show their support to their troops.  Canadians are doing this from the bottom of their hearts and a tax receipt is at the bottom of the list as a motivator. As Gunner98 pointed out I do not view this as "charity" rather this is the right thing for Canadians to do. Canadians are doing this everyday sending packages over to the troops. I suppose one could think of that as charity. I prefer to think of it as Canadians showing their support. All I am saying is that by supporting a fund (any fund) that assists the wounded is a great way to show support to those who have gave all.

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I fully agree that there are other great funds etc out there doing great work. This fund however has differant goals than Regimental funds not better just differant. At the end of the day folks have a choice as to what cause to support. I would suggest they are all worthy and have a place in helping in the healing process.I ask that you go to the web site to see the goals of the fund www.woundedwarriors.ca I think you will agree we have a somewhat differant focus than Regimental funds not better just differant.......................

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Captain J,

I find your goal to be commendable, however I would like to make a few comments.

Please understand that this website consists of people who's welfare, you are stating, you would like to look after.  The Soldiers who serve Canada.  Some of us have been wounded, or have been in situation where we would  be able to offer advice.

Unfortunately, I feel as if you are getting your back up against the wall, and not hearing out some of the advice given.

I apologise if I am misinterpreting your intent, or how you are conveying that.  The internet has a funny way of doing that.  I feel your description as this is different may cause some people to wonder of your intent.

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Re: Sapper Mike McTeague Wounded Warrior Fund
« Reply #156 on: January 17, 2007, 20:15:47 »
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Seen, I would gladly listen your advice on this issue. I would be remiss if I didn't state that I have indeed spoke to many wounded chaps on this issue. Please feel free to contact me as I am easy to get ahold of via my web site. If you do not know who I am, Bud, Bill or Mac will point you in my direction.  I would be less than honest if I didn't say I have been a tad testy for the past few days fighting the system to get my wounded chap some support the system should provide. Sadly money is the root of a lot of poor decisions. I apologise if I have come across as if my back is against the wall. Frankly it is hard not to get emotional in this biz as an AO.

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Re: Supporting Our Wounded Warriors’
« Reply #157 on: January 18, 2007, 11:42:17 »
There are numerous organizations now involved with the support for our wounded.  Most Regimental Organizations, Associations or Guilds are now becoming involved with alleviating the extra stresses placed on our wounded and their families.  Please review them all and decide which will best suit your wishes.
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Re: Supporting Our Wounded Warriors’
« Reply #158 on: January 18, 2007, 12:02:24 »
Thanks, Moderators, for merging these threads so that we can see where captainj and his programme fit into the larger scheme of things.

This http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,42827.msg474075.html#msg474075 from RHFC_piper is, for me, the key: a wounded soldier telling us what he needed.  That specific need, it appears to me, has been and is being admirably met by The RCR, PPCLI and, I assume, the R22eR Associations.  (Caveat lector: I’m a member of one of those Associations and I anted up for a hospital pack.)

It also appears to me that the CF is meeting the immediate needs of families by getting them to and back from Germany, with an Assisting Officer, to comfort their wounded kin.

There is, I guess, an unfilled need for more support back in Canada.  I’m guessing that the circumstances vary with each wounded soldier.  It might be more complex in the case of some reservists from small towns who (and whose families) lack the resources available to regular members of the big, permanent force, regimental families.  I suppose DVD players and Hudson’s Bay blankets might be higher up on their priority lists.  I cannot help but wonder if captainj and his fund are not trying to duplicate some of the work already done by the Regimental Associations and, perhaps, failing to exploit the resources of the other regular and, especially, reserve regimental and branch associations.  I’m guessing that a wounded member of the Royal Highland Fusiliers of Canada might have appreciated a RHFC sweatshirt as much as a Team Canada jersey and a generic Army baseball cap and I’m also guessing that the urgency of providing a follow up to the existing hospital packs would allow some time for a bit of customization to suit each soldier’s specific needs and wants.

Anyway, one and all: Thanks for what you have done, are doing and are planning to do.



Edits: typo (... specific need, it appears to me, has been ...) and spelling error (... needs of families by getting them to and back from ...)
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Re: Supporting Our Wounded Warriors’
« Reply #159 on: January 18, 2007, 19:18:59 »
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I respect what you are saying however if you look at the web site www.woundedwarriors.ca you will see that other than the issue of Regimental T Shirts etc you will see Sir that this fund is fundamentally differant in its goals. I too have in the past contributed to Regimental funds for the wounded. Yes they are doing a good job at what they are intended to do.

I have no doubt that RHFC_pipers need were met. However while I am not sure how long he spent in hospital we have some who are there for a great deal of time. I assure you that I have along with others spoke to chaps currently in hospital and assessed their needs. The brave soldier I am AO to has been in hospital since 18 Sept.  I can only assume the folks in Pet for example have a good support network and are indeed close to home. This always isn't the case and these folks need help beyond what any Regimental fund could assist with.

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"I cannot help but wonder if captainj and his fund are not trying to duplicate some of the work already done by the Regimental Associations and, perhaps, failing to exploit the resources of the other regular and, especially, reserve regimental and branch associations".

I do not think this is the case the Wounded Warrior Fund is looking more long term with our 4 programs. Perhaps however you might be right and I should leave the T Shirts etc up to the Regimental system (I mean that I am not being funny). As you can I am sure appreciate this biz is a learning curve for everyone incl the CF.  I can assure you re Reserve units and fund that this isn't the case. While it is true some are a tad wealthy many are poor as church mice.

"It also appears to me that the CF is meeting the immediate needs of families by getting them to and back from Germany, with an Assisting Officer, to comfort their wounded kin".

I cannot agree with this. Yes... if a troop is out of hospital within 15 days all is well as the system only supports the family for that amount of time. The longer term wounded and the families have some real support issues and added stress. In addition very few families go to Germany in fact going to Germany isn't the best news for a family. Basically a family goes to Germany in the event of "life threatening" injury's. Believe it or not there is a chart that G1 uses to determine who,what, and why if they go to Germany along with a Doctors recommendation.

"I’m guessing that the circumstances vary with each wounded soldier.  It might be more complex in the case of some reservists from small towns who (and whose families) lack the resources available to regular members of the big, permanent force, regimental families".

You are so right here each soldier has unique needs. Re Reservists from small towns I am sure you are right, sadly it is also the case in the GTA. In a nutshell other than places with a large CF presence there are issue. Believe it or not for example in Toronto you have a hard time getting a DND prescription filled at other than a few pharmacies I am told this is the case in other urban areas without a large CF presence. You can imagine more complex support is like moving mountains

I would really love to speak to you re this issue as I can see you have passion and really care. If you wish I will email you off line and give you my phone number.

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Re: Supporting Our Wounded Warriors’
« Reply #161 on: January 18, 2007, 20:28:36 »
You are so right here each soldier has unique needs. Re Reservists from small towns I am sure you are right, sadly it is also the case in the GTA. In a nutshell other than places with a large CF presence there are issue. Believe it or not for example in Toronto you have a hard time getting a DND prescription filled at other than a few pharmacies I am told this is the case in other urban areas without a large CF presence. You can imagine more complex support is like moving mountains

I would really love to speak to you re this issue as I can see you have passion and really care. If you wish I will email you off line and give you my phone number.

Captain J


Hello Sir,

This is a very interesting statement, can you please elaborate.  What do you mean it is hard for DND prescriptions to be filled in the GTA, and how is the wounded warrior fund assisting?

This is a scary thought, and an explanation would be brilliant, so that any future injured reservists, will not be frustrated and know what avenues to take.

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(Moderator edit - see split tangent thread on this subject here: http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,56058.0.html)

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Re: Supporting our Wounded Soldiers - Discussion of Various Funds Available
« Reply #162 on: January 18, 2007, 20:57:00 »
Topic re-titled to more accurately reflect the merged topic of various fundraising groups and initiatives currently underway in support of our wounded soldiers.

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Re: Supporting our Wounded Soldiers - Discussion of Various Funds Available
« Reply #163 on: January 20, 2007, 08:41:53 »
Saw a blurb last night, Friday Jan 19th, from CTV Toronto about the what captain j and others are doing for our wounded lads.

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Re: Supporting our Wounded Soldiers - Discussion of Various Funds Available
« Reply #164 on: January 20, 2007, 15:53:16 »
I would like to assure you that all military physicians are also fully qualified and licensed practitioners in the civilian world too. Any pharmacist who would not fill a prescription should be reported to their professional organization. A doctor can write a prescription on a napkin and as long as his name and registration number are on it any pharmacist in Canada can fill it.

members of the Canadian military including reservists are well cared for even when they live in Toronto.


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« Reply #165 on: January 28, 2007, 23:30:49 »
And he's off!

News Release:  Soldier and Canadian Ultrarunner goes the distance to raise awareness for new program
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17 WING WINNIPEG – Canadian Forces member and Canada’s male Ultrarunner of the year, Sergeant Andrew McLean, departs for a challenging international, 740-kilometer race to raise awareness for the Canadian Paralympic Committee’s (CPC) Soldier On program.

CPC is working closely with the CF to have the Soldier On program help to rehabilitate injured soldiers through sports. Sgt McLean learned about the program while searching for a cause to dedicate his Yukon Artic Ultra to.

“I would like to do my part to help injured soldiers get back in the game – running, biking, skiing, whatever it is they want to do,” says Sgt Andrew McLean. “These soldiers are young and have full lives ahead.”

“The primary area of interest is to help injured Canadians, and injured soldiers, become involved in sport, as a proven way of rehabilitation,” says CPC president Carla Qualtrough. “We see it as an ideal way of promoting Paralympic Sport in Canada. Our aim is to develop a sport system for people with disabilities, including soldiers, that encourages participation at all levels, from recreational to high performance.”

Since Sgt McLean has become involved in Soldier On, others across the CF have offered their support by organizing fundraising initiatives, such as a rock concert, a dinner, and a dive-a-thon.

Sgt Andrew McLean is one of two Canadians to enter the Yukon Arctic Ultra’s 460-mile event. With only 13 days to complete the trek through the Arctic, that is nearly 18 full marathons. As the current Canadian male ultrarunner of the year, and Canada’s fastest 100-mile marathon runner in 2005, training has become a lifestyle for the world-class athlete.

McLean will benefit from the broad range of Arctic skills and experience that he has honed as a Search and Rescue Technician in the Canadian Forces. Serving at 17 Wing Winnipeg, his Squadron’s area of responsibility for search and rescue includes much of Canada’s artic.

Media wishing to interview Sgt. McLean are asked to contact 2nd Lieutenant Angela Court at (204) 227-3439, or arrive at 17 Wing Winnipeg’s Whytewold gate between 8 a.m. and 2 p.m. Friday, 27 January, 2007.

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Re: Supporting our Wounded Soldiers - Discussion of Various Funds Available
« Reply #166 on: January 29, 2007, 09:49:51 »
For your info, in todays San Antonio, TX newspaper

A $50 million thank-you to vets

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Today's dedication of a $50 million rehabilitation center at Brooke Army Medical Center will be as glitzy as one gets on an Army post, with celebrities and politicians shaking the hands of soldiers with severe burns and amputated limbs.
Expected guests at the gala dedication of the Center for the Intrepid and two new Fisher Houses include two presidential hopefuls, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain, as well as actor Denzel Washington, comedian Rosie O'Donnell and singer John Mellencamp. There's been talk that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and actress Michelle Pfeiffer may be there.

But make no mistake. The stars at today's event are the troops who've served and sacrificed.

As construction workers toiled at a breakneck pace for some 14 months to finish the cutting-edge facility on time, they kept thinking about the wounded.

"That was a big emotional mover for the job," said Dean Poillucci, vice president of Skanska USA Building, construction manager on the project.

About 1,000 tradesmen helped with the center, which took 325,000 man-hours to build.

"This was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to build a facility for the people in our armed services," he said. "The challenges were many, and it took a lot of long days and long hours, but we knew what it was for."

This morning's dedication also underscores a nation's gratitude. The center is the largest, costliest facility ever built for war veterans with private funds — more than 600,000 individual and corporate donations, ranging from $1 to $1 million.

The country has come a long way since the Vietnam era, when veterans were cursed at and spat upon. Now, after 9-11, supporting veterans is as American as baseball and apple pie.

Still, some critics have said the Intrepid center reveals a shortcoming in government's responsibility to care for veterans.

Paul Begala, Democratic Party guru and former adviser to President Clinton, said the center, which will be staffed by Veterans Affairs and Defense Department medical workers and therapists, should've been funded with public dollars.

"It is an obscenity that a government that can find billions in no-bid contracts for Halliburton and trillions in tax cuts for the wealthy cannot find a few million dollars to bind up the wounds of its heroes," he said.

American Legion National Commander Paul Morin said the federal government has long failed its veterans, passing that responsibility to states or the private sector.
 
"I use the phrase often that a nation that forgets its veterans is a lost nation. We're getting to that point when you see private individuals come to the plate to build a home for veterans who have lost limbs and other major injuries as a result of war," said Morin, 54, of Chicopee, Mass.

VA Secretary Jim Nicholson, who's in town for the dedication, doesn't see it that way.

The idea for the center began two years ago when New York philanthropist Arnold Fisher, chairman of the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund, asked military leaders what his group could do to help veterans. Congress had just approved a "death gratuity" for fallen U.S. troops, addressing a need Fisher's group had tried to meet by giving financial support to families of the fallen.

"He wanted to have something really special here, a showplace for how we care for our injured, for all the world to see," Nicholson said. "This is just another notch up. I think it speaks volumes about the care and concern people in America have for young men and women who raise their hands, take an oath and go off to war."

Media tours of the center began Sunday when Master Sgt. Daniel Robles, who had both legs amputated below the knee after being wounded in Iraq, became the first person to receive a medal in the new building — a Purple Heart and Bronze Star.

With wife Ernestine and 5-year-old daughter Mary, at his side, Robles said he's used his family's support to get through since he was hurt nine months ago, and he looks forward to what he'll accomplish at the center.

Arnold Fisher called the wounded veterans "our national treasure" but said he hopes they someday won't need facilities like the Intrepid center.

"Our only wish is that a place like this someday will become a garage," he said.

Features in the four-story center include an indoor gym with a running track and 21-foot rock climbing simulator; a gait lab that makes three-dimensional animated images to help guide and improve movement; a virtual reality dome, where veterans can improve their balance; shooting and driving simulators; and a water aquatics area, with a "flow rider" that resembles a ride at Schlitterbahn.

The ornate, oval-shaped center is more than twice the size of BAMC's 29,000-square-foot amputee care center, which opened two years ago.

Next to it are two new 21-room Fisher Houses. The Fisher House Foundation raised about $6 million to give relatives of the wounded a place to stay, with freshly planted palm trees, a rambling courtyard and a children's playground.

The foundation partnered with the Fallen Heroes Fund and built two new houses side-by-side for the first time, in conjunction with the opening of the Intrepid center.

Ken Fisher, Arnold Fisher's son and chairman and CEO of the Fisher House Foundation, said the new houses have wide hallways, rooms that are spacious and wheelchair-friendly, and large common areas — kitchens, dining and living rooms, so families with similar difficulties can share and bond.

"They will have a feeling of warmth," he said. "We want these houses to be homes."

One wounded Marine at BAMC, Cpl. Aaron P. Mankin, 25, said he's had more than 20 surgeries since he was badly burned over 25 percent of his body, including his face, hands and arms, the result of an explosion in Iraq two years ago.

But with his wife and infant daughter nearby, he's adjusting to his disability and disfigurement, while learning to be a father. Since he was wearing goggles when injured, he still has eyes to see his baby, Madeline.

"There's a lot of questioning and self-doubt any dad has. Those are compounded," he said in a raspy voice, from inhalation burns.

"The exciting part is there's no other place you can go to get this type of quality care," said Mankin, of Rogers, Ark.

It remains to be seen whether the center will be the last privately funded facility that's needed for veterans.

"I certainly hope so," said Bill White, president of the Fallen Heroes Fund. "But I could tell you one thing. I was at the hospital the other day and they were talking about getting geared up for potentially more wounded service members coming from Iraq and Afghanistan. The need is great."

Aside from $250,000 donated by USAA and $100,000 from Randolph-Brooks Federal Credit Union, San Antonians gave little for the center, White said.

Advances in battlefield survival, from 73 percent during Vietnam to 93 percent today, have prompted the nonprofit world to do more to care for the wounded, Ken Fisher said.

His foundation plans to build 21 new Fisher Houses over the next four years and, since 9-11, has given more than 7,500 airline tickets to veterans' relatives to help them be near loved ones.

"We're trying to grow the foundation to help with the families' other needs," he said.

The higher survival rates also have challenged the VA to give veterans a quality of life, said Nicholson, a Bush appointee who became secretary in 2005.

"There are now people returning who would not be coming back alive in previous wars," he said. "That's both a challenge and an opportunity for us, to serve those who've made great sacrifices."

Funding for veterans' health care has risen 70 percent since 2000, Nicholson said. The $80 billion VA budget for 2007, up from $48 billion in fiscal 2001, includes an unprecedented $25 billion for VA medical care.

And despite heated debate over President Bush's planned troop surge in Iraq, Nicholson said he believes support for veteran health care spending will keep rising.

"I expect that there will continue to be strong support of veterans," he said. "It's not about partisan politics, it's about patriotism."
 





 
 
 
 


 

 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Supporting our Wounded Soldiers - Discussion of Various Funds Available
« Reply #167 on: February 01, 2007, 09:44:34 »
http://www.kicx106.com/index.php?set_language=en&cccpage=supporttroops

So, will I see any of our esteemed army.ca members there?

I'll be wearing a red army.ca shirt...... :)
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Campaign supports kids of fallen soldiers; Urges government to pay for their post-secondary education

Carol Mulligan

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 09:00

Local News - Whether Canadians agree our troops should be in Afghanistan or not, we are largely unanimous on one point: our country's women and men fighting the Taliban deserve our respect.

Tim Peters and his friends believe soldiers killed fighting for Canada deserve more. They want the government to provide free education to the fallen soldiers' children.

Sudbury native Peters, 26, and friends from the University of Toronto have launched an initiative called Herofund.ca.

Its mission is to persuade the federal government to pass legislation allocating money for post-secondary education for the children of soldiers killed in the line of duty.

Peters says Herofund.ca is a non-political, non-profit organization seeking to collect more than 100,000 signatures to be presented to Canadian Parliament.

The idea was his, and it was sparked by a couple of factors. One was his sorrow that young children are losing their soldier fathers at far too young an age.

The other was his wish to honour the memory of his grandfather, Tom Peters, the well-known Sudbury environmentalist who died earlier this year.

Tom Peters served with the Canadian navy during the Second World War and was very proud of his service.

"That really inspired me to push through with this vision," said Tim Peters in a telephone interview Friday from Toronto where he now lives.

The younger Peters graduated from the University of Toronto in 2005 with a degree in history and political science, and considered a career in public service with foreign affairs, he said.

A high-technology consultant with a Toronto firm, Peters said he was touched by stories of the financial difficulties faced by the families of soldiers killed in Afghanistan.

"I felt that we could do more ... that we are a community and we have to look out for each other," he said.

"They're overseas fighting so I can be in school or working. If something's to happen, we have to look after each other (and) help their families."

Peters talked with friends in Sudbury who are in the reserves and with other military personnel and their families to test the idea. All support it, he said.

The campaign and its website, www.herofund.ca, were launched Thursday and, within hours, 400 people had visited the site. Responses came from people who are the left and the right politically.

"We support these people who are out there doing these really brave tasks," said Peters. "Whatever our views are about politics, they deserve our support as a community."

The website was created by another Sudburian, Anthony Carbone, who now lives in Mississauga and shares Peters' conviction that this is an important cause.

Herofund.ca's focus is on gathering names on its petition, which can be found on its website. At the same time, its members are talking with university officials about tuition breaks for the children of soldiers killed in action.

If those avenues aren't successful, the group may turn to the public for donations, but Peters is hoping that won't be necessary.

When it obtains 100,000 signatures, they will be presented to Gov.-Gen. Michaelle Jean, Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the House of Commons and the Senate, said Peters.

Visit the group's website at www.herofund.ca.

cmulligan@thesudburystar.com

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Three soldiers with ties to Sudbury have been killed serving in Afghanistan:

Corporal Glen Arnold, of 2 Field Ambulance at CFB Petawawa and originally from McKerrow, was killed Sept. 18, 2006, when a Taliban bicycle bomber attacked Canadian soldiers and civilians west of Kandahar. He is survived by his wife and three children.

Private David Byers, 22, of 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry at CFB Shilo and from Espanola, was killed in the same bomb attack as Arnold. His fiance was pregnant when he was killed and has since given birth to the couple's daughter.

Trooper Mark Andrew Wilson, 39, of the Royal Canadian Dragoons at CFB Petawawa and formerly of Killarney, died when his armoured vehicle hit a roadside explosive in the Panjwaii district of Afghanistan. He is survived by his wife and two sons
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Donations to troops appreciated
Tue Aug 14, 2007

To the editor:
Once again the good citizens of Uxbridge rallied and supported a wonderful cause. Thank you to all of you who donated clothing and toiletries for the troops in Afghanistan. If you happened to pass by the window of Blue Heron Books at collection time you would have seen it filled to overflowing with donations. A special thank you to Audrey Bain and her husband who helped to see some 30 boxes safely on a military transport, and a thank you also to Chris and Marcus Eaton and Daniel Bagg who helped to sort the goods and write up all of the customs forms. It was truly a teamwork effort. Below is a note sent from my nephew in Afghanistan upon receipt of the goods.

Shelley Macbeth

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I would like to personally thank the citizens of Uxbridge and Durham Region for their generosity in supporting the troops rally held on April 21. As well, your donations dropped off at Blue Heron Books have allowed R3 Multinational Medical Unit (R3) to replenish the shelves of the donation room. This allowed R3 to send some much needed personal items to the troops working at the Forward Operating Bases. It is sometimes the forgotten items that make all the difference in the daily life of a soldier.

Role 3 Multinational Medical Unit is located at the Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan. The hospital is a military medical facility manned by Canadian, American, British, Dutch and Danish medical staff.

R3 provides medical care to all military soldiers in Southern Afghanistan. We also provide care to the Afghanistan police, Afghanistan army and any civilians that may have been injured by the fighting are also treated in our hospital. Your donations are greatly appreciated.

David Decaire


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« Reply #171 on: September 07, 2007, 18:50:11 »
Nice piece on captainj  on Global news 'Everyday Heroes" segment tonight.

Well done.


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Very well done, salute to Global as well.

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Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean, C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D. Governor General of Canada

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Ottawa, Ontario
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Dear Your Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean, C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D. Governor General of Canada

 

SUBJECT: RENOUNCEATION OF MILITARY MEDALS DUE TO THE CONTINUED LACK OF ACTION BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TOWARDS DISABLED VETERANS OF THE CANADIAN FORCES & RCMP

 

My name is Dennis Manuge. I am a disabled veteran of the Canadian Forces and also the representative plaintiff for, DENNIS MANUGE v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN and the lone plaintiff for, DENNIS MANUGE v. AGC. These legal actions are a last resort to recover almost $500 million that has been illegally stolen (clawed back) by the federal government and the Department of National Defence from an estimated 6500 disabled veterans like myself. The case is known in media and political circles as the SISIP Clawback.

The Class Action:

The Class Action was initiated in March of 2007 on behalf Dennis Manuge and all other disabled veterans who’s SISIP Long Term Disability Benefits are reduced by the amount of the monthly VAC Disability Pension they receive under the Pension Act.

On May 20, 2008, the Federal Court of Canada certified the claim as a Class Action and defined the Class as follows:

All former members of the Canadian Forces whose long term disability benefits under the SISIP policy number 901102 were reduced by the amount of their VAC disability benefits received pursuant to the Pension Act from April 17, 1985 to date.

The effect of the certification of this claim cannot be understated. Upon certification, the claim changed from one individual pursuing litigation against the Government of Canada alone to in excess of 6500 disabled veterans pursuing the Government of Canada for their collective losses.

You should know that the government has already spoken and voted to end this practice in parliament on November 7, 2006. The vote in the house to support Mr. Peter Stoffer’s private bill was 154 yeas to 111 nays. No action by the government.

I, along with another disabled Veteran, my lawyer, and the Royal Canadian Legion Command, addressed the Senate Sub-Committee on Veterans Affairs on May 7, 2008. Subsequently, that committee released a report on June 18th, 2009, titled, Report on Reductions of Services Income Security Insurance Plan Long Term Disability Benefits. Below is an excerpt from their report;

FINDINGS

This is an exceedingly complex issue, but the Subcommittee worked hard to maintain a focus on the central question as to whether the current method of reducing veterans’ SISIP LTD benefits was fair.  We have concluded it is not.

The DND and CF Ombudsman’s Special Report of October 2003, presents an in-depth study of this issue and we are pleased to note that it comes to the same conclusion as we have.  It too judges the SISIP LTD reductions to be unfair.([7])  In fact, all witnesses who appeared before us, with the exception of witnesses from the Department of National Defence (DND), felt the reductions were indeed unfair.

The Ombudsman’s report delivered five recommendations, three of which have been implemented.  Regrettably, DND has chosen not to move ahead with the two principal recommendations that call for an immediate end to SISIP LTD reductions and the reimbursement of Veterans who were subject to such reductions since 2000.

During our study of this issue DND was asked to provide two items of background information.  First, they were asked for the average SISIP LTD payment for the past fiscal year.  Second, they were asked to calculate the cost of reimbursing all Veterans whose SISIP LTD benefits had been reduced, since 1976.  Both requests were made when DND witnesses appeared before us on 30 April 2008.  At the time of publication of this report, DND had not yet replied.

 FUTURE ACTION

The Subcommittee is concerned about all the Veterans who, since 1976, have had their SISIP LTD benefits reduced. We will revisit the complex issue of reimbursement later this year, when DND has provided the information requested.

RECOMMENDATION

That the government immediately cease the practice of reducing SISIP LTD benefits awarded to veterans, by the amount received in a Pension Act disability pension.

 

As mentioned earlier in this letter, your Excellency, our legal action is a last resort. Since the DND Ombudsman’s original report (October 2003) calling for an end to this unfair clawback, we have had nothing but support and understanding towards our cause from everyone except the government of this country. Pat Stogran, the VAC Ombudsman, has overtly supported this cause on his official website as well.

 

“The SISIP Long Term Disability Plan is administered by the Canadian Forces, and so technically these claw backs fall outside my mandate. However, since there is no doubt in my mind that the National Defence and Canadian Forces Ombudsman has researched this issue with all the thoroughness and rigour that we in the Office would, I have no hesitation at all to echo the Ombudsman’s condemnation of this unfair treatment. Additionally, since Veterans Affairs Canada uses the same calculation formula to determine Earning Loss benefits—a program that guarantees 75 percent of pre-release salary while a Veteran takes part in the Rehabilitation Program—I have exercised my formal obligation to our stakeholders by asking the Department to review the way it calculates the Earning Loss benefits. We intend to track this matter very, very closely.”

         (Pat Stogran-VAC Ombudsman)

 

Here is a list of who has supported an end to this unjust and illegal practice;

 

Andre Marin, Yves Cote, former DND Ombudsman

Pat Stogran, VAC Ombudsman

Parliament of Canada, vote November 2006

The Royal Canadian Legion Command

The Senate of Canada

McInnes Cooper (Peter Driscoll) my legal representative

 

Now we are being stalled at every turn in court, and will appear before the supreme court of Canada to argue the de-certification of our action in the federal court of appeals. To what end? We will win eventually. The government needs to do the right thing now. The issue some say is complex is not really a complex issue at all. It is about fundamental fairness and doing the right thing on behalf of those of us souls who were willing to “sign a blank cheque made out to the people of Canada for an amount up to and including our lives.”

 

As the Queen’s Representative for Canada and your “commander in chief” role for our forces I am choosing to write to you in hopes that you will become an outspoken advocate for our cause and the other very serious issues before the courts related to Veterans.

 

Since the implementation of the New Veterans Charter things have not changed. The government would have us believe that the above practice no longer takes place; however, the same clawback applies when veterans apply for the Earnings Loss Benefit. (See http://www.ombudsman-veterans.gc.ca/reports-rapports/discussions/090204-discussion-eng.cfm)

 

In protest towards the government of Canada’s lack of action, please accept my military medals, acquired during my nine and a half years service, as I no longer respect the government of Canada, the bureaucrats who really run things, nor the institution (DND) that presented me with them. I am ashamed of my oath of allegiance to Queen and Country, when so many of us have not had that same allegiance in return. The lies, denials, and lack of action by the government of Canada need to come to light. My medals will accompany this letter.

 

If you and your office require further information on this issue please contact any or all of the following:

 

Peter Stoffer, MP Sackville Eastern Shore of NS

Peter Driscoll, Attorney McInnes Cooper, Halifax NS

Pat Stogran, VAC Ombudsman

 

Sincerely and respectfully

 

 

Dennis Manuge

32 Isaac’s Place

RR#2 Site 10A Box 0

Head of Chezzetcook, NS

B0J 1N0

 

(902) 827-4807

Cell- 499-0656
dmanuge@eastlink.ca
dennis.manuge@mobility.blackberry.net

 

 

References

 

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Court Number
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 Nature of Proceeding
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T-296-09
 DENNIS MANUGE v. AGC
 S. 18.1 Application for Judicial Review
 RE
 

 

 

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Court Number
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 'RE'
 
T-463-07
 DENNIS MANUGE v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
 Others - Crown (v. Queen) [Actions]
 RE
 

 

 

 

 

RCMP CASE

 

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Court Number
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 Nature of Proceeding
 'RE'
 
T-479-09
 A. GERARD BUOTE v. AGC
 S. 18.1 Application for Judicial Review
 RE
 


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Court Number
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 'RE'
 
T-889-08
 A. GERARD BUOTE v. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
 Others - Crown (v. Queen) [Actions]
 RE
 

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I wish VAC didn't suck so much that we needed all theses programs. When I compare the benefits to the life changing disabilities they are minuscule. 260,000$(Last time I checked) for 100% disability sucks. Don't go on about the cost of living things they will give you now. VAC treats vets like someone on welfare and makes then beg for every scrap and everything takes months. Vets should really get mobilized somewhere.