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DND/VAC (Re)Introduces "Memorial Ribbon"
« on: November 04, 2011, 09:43:50 »
This just out from the CF Info-machine - release also attached or downloadable (PDF) here if link doesn't work for you:
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As part of Veterans Week 2011, the Department of National Defence and the Canadian Forces (CF), are pleased to announce the official launch of the Memorial Ribbon. Starting today, the Memorial Ribbon will be offered to close family and friends of fallen CF members as a memento of personal loss and sacrifice.

“The introduction of the Memorial Ribbon reflects a Department of National Defence and Canadian Forces desire to provide a small token of remembrance to those closest to our fallen,” said the Honourable Peter MacKay, Minister of National Defence. “For example, the children of fallen Canadian Forces members, who are not usually designated as potential recipients of the Memorial Cross, will now be able to honour their mothers or fathers by wearing this Ribbon with pride.”

Up to five Memorial Ribbons may be issued in commemoration of every CF member whose death is attributed to injury or disease related to military service, and occurred on or after October 7, 2001.

“We grieve whenever we lose a member of our Canadian Forces family, be it to illness, accident or combat; it is a painful and sad event. We have a duty to recognize and honour our fallen comrades, while also being sensitive to a grieving family's loss,” said General Walt Natynczyk, Chief of the Defence Staff. “The Memorial Ribbon is a symbol of remembrance that complements the Memorial Cross. The Ribbon will assist us in better honouring close family members and the children of our fallen while also recognizing the family's sacrifice. We will remember them.”

The Memorial Ribbon will now be part of the Memorial Package, which includes the Memorial Cross, the Memorial Scroll, the Memorial Bar, the Sacrifice Medal, and inscription in the Seventh Book of Remembrance. For those eligible recipients whose beneficiaries have previously received the Memorial Package without the Memorial Ribbon, the ribbons will be sent separately to the executor of the estate upon written request.

The Department of National Defence’s Directorate of Honours and Recognition (DH&R) is the office responsible for administration of the Memorial Ribbon.

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For more information on the design, the eligibility criteria, and to view an image of the new Memorial Ribbon, please consult DH&R’s website at: http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhr-ddhr/chc-tdh/index-eng.asp .
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Up to five Memorial Ribbons may be issued in commemoration of every CF member whose death is attributed to injury or disease related to military service, and occurred on or after October 7, 2001.

Does this include suicide?
If so is it only if the member was serving overseas at the time or does it cover after they have been home a while?

I'd like to look in to it for my friends son.
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Following on from the painfully expanded PEN form -- because some self-proclaimed "close friends/family" felt slighted by the service member's choice of who to notify -- we now have another potential can of worms as people argue that they are more deserving than 'friend/family #5'   ::)

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The  executor of the estate must ask for these in writing. The NOK should decide who gets a ribbon.

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The NOK should decide who gets a ribbon.
Really? I would have thought the member should have some say in who's designated.

After all, there may be situations where the soldier isn't particularly close to the family and perhaps has more insight into who the close friends may be.
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Really? I would have thought the member should have some say in who's designated.

After all, there may be situations where the soldier isn't particularly close to the family and perhaps has more insight into who the close friends may be.

Sorry, to clarify the press release states it will be offered to the close family and friends of the fallen. No matter how many ribbons are issued, there will always be those who feel slighted.
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Hmmmm.....

As of this post, the link to the news release:
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/news-nouvelles/news-nouvelles-eng.asp?id=3990
no longer seems to work.

???
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Well, somebody has to have a job rewriting stuff, no?   ;)
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we now have another potential can of worms as people argue that they are more deserving than 'friend/family #5'   ::)

As far as I'm concerned (borne through observation as well), the military can keep out of these bunfights by including the ribbons on the DND 2105.  I've seen fights over Memorial Crosses, but the form is the legal document that gives us the ability to stay out of such affairs.

The real challenge is making sure Pers Admin is on top of things to routinely update this document; the mess starts when ex-girlfriends/wives are on these lists (over parents, siblings) because they were out-dated.
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Well, somebody has to have a job rewriting stuff, no?   ;)
Or sitting on it a bit longer - say, another 5-6 days or so?  ;)
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Thank you for sharing that. I've downloaded the letter and will wait to see who to contact for this. I've also sent it on to other widows/families.

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A family submitted a letter, here is part of the response they were given.

"Unfortunately, the release of the Memorial Ribbon memento is currently under review by a higher authority.  The determination of this review will dictate how DH&R will proceed with the Memorial Ribbon."

Thought I'd share...

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A family submitted a letter, here is part of the response they were given.

"Unfortunately, the release of the Memorial Ribbon memento is currently under review by a higher authority.  The determination of this review will dictate how DH&R will proceed with the Memorial Ribbon."

Thought I'd share...

Thank you.
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A family submitted a letter, here is part of the response they were given.

"Unfortunately, the release of the Memorial Ribbon memento is currently under review by a higher authority.  The determination of this review will dictate how DH&R will proceed with the Memorial Ribbon."

Thought I'd share...
Thanks for the update - much appreciated.
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"Ministers MacKay and Blaney commemorate Canadian Forces members, families"
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2012, 15:58:19 »
An announcement coming tomorrow (6 Nov 12) morning:
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The Honourable Peter MacKay, Minister of National Defence, and the Honourable Steven Blaney, Minister of Veterans Affairs Canada, will make a joint announcement on November 6, 2012, regarding an initiative to recognize the families and friends of deceased Canadian Forces members and to commemorate their lost loved-ones ....
Wonder if it's something like this - again?
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Lets see if its meaningful or just a plan to deflect criticism of VAC.
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An announcement coming tomorrow (6 Nov 12) morning:Wonder if it's something like this - again?

Yes, according to information I've received today, it is a similar announcement.  The date has changed tho "on or after October 1, 1947"

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Yes, according to information I've received today, it is a similar announcement.  The date has changed tho "on or after October 1, 1947"
Thanks for sharing - take care.
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Probably the new $20 bill

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/11/05/bank-of-canada-set-to-release-new-polymer-20-bill-wednesday/

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But they're not starting circulation until tomorrow - the announcement from the earlier post here is set for this morning (0830 Eastern).
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2012, 09:11:38 »
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The Honourable Peter MacKay, Minister of National Defence, along with the Honourable Steven Blaney, Minister of Veterans Affairs Canada, announced today the creation of the Memorial Ribbon. The Memorial Ribbon will be offered to close family and friends of deceased Canadian Forces (CF) members as a memento of personal loss and sacrifice.

“Our Government has enormous respect for the men and women who have made sacrifices in service of their country. The introduction of the Memorial Ribbon reflects our Government’s desire to provide a small token of remembrance to those close to our military members who passed away while in service of Canada,” said Minister MacKay. “The Government of Canada is determined to do everything it can to support Canada’s heroes and their families. With the new Memorial Ribbon, our Government’s ensuring that those who are not usually designated as potential recipients of the Memorial Cross will be able to honour their loved ones by wearing this Ribbon with pride.” 

Memorial Ribbons may be issued in commemoration of every CF member whose death is attributed to injury or illness sustained on or after October 1, 1947, due to military service. This date coincides with the first date inscribed in Veterans Affairs Canada’s Seventh Book of Remembrance.

“The Memorial Ribbon is a profound demonstration of our care and concern for Canada’s military families — not just the men and women who bravely serve our country, but their families and other loved ones who have sacrificed so much for us,” said Minister Blaney. “This is a fitting complement to the Memorial Cross. It reflects how deeply loved and dearly missed our fallen heroes are.”

The Memorial Ribbon will now be part of the Memorial Package, which currently includes the Memorial Cross, the Memorial Scroll, the Memorial Bar, the Sacrifice Medal, and inscription in the Seventh Book of Remembrance. For those eligible recipients whose beneficiaries have previously received the Memorial Package without the Memorial Ribbon, the ribbons will be sent separately to the executor of the estate upon written request. 

The Department of National Defence’s Directorate of Honours and Recognition is the office responsible for the administration of the Memorial Ribbon, which will be available in early 2013.

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For more information on the design, the eligibility criteria, the application process, and to view an image of the new Memorial Ribbon, please consult the Directorate of Honours and Recognition’s website at: http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhr-ddhr/chc-tdh/chart-tableau-eng.asp?ref=MemR.

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So far, the "For more information" page doesn't seem to have info on the Ribbon itself.  News release also attached again, though I don't think it'll be disappearing this time  ;) - stand by for merge now that it's confirmed.
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Re: DND/VAC (Re)Introduces "Memorial Ribbon"
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2012, 09:20:04 »
Another bauble vice real, substantial care for those in the most need.
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Re: DND/VAC (Re)Introduces "Memorial Ribbon"
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2012, 09:39:53 »
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You're right, Jim. The Conservatives, the party of which I am a card carrying mmember and to which I donate pretty much as much as the law allows each year, should be ashamed of themselves.

This is  :bullshit: pure and simple; it is designed to try to take attention away from the sad, shameful fact that the CPC still supports the bad, Liberal, Veterans' Charter, which is nothing more than a way to cheapskate the men and women who served after Korea.
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Re: DND/VAC (Re)Introduces "Memorial Ribbon"
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2012, 10:04:35 »
It is for reasons like this that I will probably not join any political party.


It's not the physically WIA troops I am primarily concerned about. Physical injuries, for the most part, are promptly dealt with.

It is those with psychological wounds, which can take decades to appear, or remain hidden that I am most concerned with. We have not yet begun to see the effects of multiple deployments, or witnessing multiple deaths of comrades or civilians. It will not be pretty.
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